As the TTC voted to raise fares to bring a bit more cash in, allegations about the transit system bleeding money are popping up on the Jerry Agar Show.

One current and one former bus driver blame it on fare jumpers and how operators hands are tied to stop them.

Barry Nimone was a TTC bus driver for 28 years. Now retired, he says he remembers one incident where two men in their 20s got on his bus and stayed next to him looking for change for quite some time.

He asked for them to get off  but they refused. He says when a TTC inspector and security showed up, the officials asked him to take the two to the subway anyway.

Tony, another driver who would only give his first name, claims operators aren't allowed to kick them off the bus.

The TTC maintains bus operators have not been instructed to let people who don't want to pay their fare ride for free.

TTC spokesperson Brad Ross does underline, however, since fare evasion plays a part in many transit employee assaults, it's at the driver's discretion on how to handle a situation.

Ross says TTC security and police can even be called in if the situation warrants it.

He also points out situations where younger people or the elderly who may not have the full fare late at night.

As for the specific incidents spoken about on the Jerry Agar Show, Ross couldn't comment.

Out of the $1 billion the transit system collects from the fare box each year, it estimates $20 million was lost due to fare evasion in 2010 - the latest numbers reported.

But don't think it's a free-for-all: If you do try to get a free ride, you could be fined $300.