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Hudak Wants Stronger Wage-Freeze Bill

Posted By: Katie Franzios · 10/1/2012 12:41:00 PM

They want something stronger.

The Tories down at Queen's Park say they're not impressed with the proposed Liberal legislation for a two-year public sector wage freeze, pointing out the staggered approach to waiting for contracts to end is just too soft. PC leader Tim Hudak says he wants something immediate.

Last week, the McGuinty government revealed they wanted 481,000 broader public sector employees to freeze their pay over two years, but said they don't want to institute anything until union contracts are cover.

Tim Hudak says he's ready to rip up contracts to save the province money. He also underlines he would get rid of public sector jobs at the same time.

Hudak says he won't support what the Liberals unveiled.

While NDP leader Andrea Horwath says she isn't happy with the Liberals ideas, she's waiting to see the legislation tabled to decide whether or not she would support it.

This comes as the finance minister reveals he has written to both opposition leaders, asking them to send their ideas to him by October 9th so he can see what he can incorporate into his proposed legislation.

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  1. proton posted on 10/01/2012 01:30 PM
    Hudak needs to step up to the plate and ensure there's stronger legislation to reduce the runaway costs that are helping to destroy this province economically. Not sure about ripping up contracts however reducing legacy payments (pensions) would help and also ensuring if wages are frozen they don't make up for it with subsequent contracts.
    1. WS posted on 10/26/2012 08:23 AM
      @proton pensions are negotiated parts of contracts with members contributing as well as the company. so you advocate going in and removing these negotiated benfits but not tearing up contracts. How about the Banks gojng to you long after you have paid the house off and telling you that there is still more owing. I guess that would be ok too then right?
  2. Walcott posted on 10/01/2012 04:49 PM
    We had8years of Conservative Common Sense with Mike Harris, who Privitized, cut, slashed, demonized and demoralized Public Sector workers...all we got was richer corporations, patronage appointments, scandals, MPPs who became multimillionaires over night when Mike snuck out the back door and no real improvement for everyday Ontarians.
    Lil' Timmy is recklessly saber rattling, letting the same neo-Con talking heads who programmed him during the election speak through him once again to push an agenda that is meant to benefit a very select few at the expense of the majority of us already trying to deal with the reality of the 21st Century.
    Dalton needs to go.
    Sadly like most Canadian Governments the Ontario Libs have been in power so long their arrogance has made them unserviceable to us; however the Conservatives offer no real plans for a future for the Province, just short term cuts and "get tough" talk meant to satisfy gross public resentment towards the phantom few Hudak and his lot have talked into existence in order to propell their own desire to form a government and get rich as Uncle Mike and the First Generation of Ont Neo Cons did at the turn of the Century.
    Let us hope that the NDP have learned since the disaster of Bob Rae.
    It would be refreshing though if any of our Politicians at Queen's Park would come out and table a motion to scale back their disgustingly rich pensions, benefits and pay...Dalton won't do that...and Timmy, who has never worked anywhere but in Politics and really has no idea about what the average Ontario family goes through, who qualified for his pension for life after just 6 years whelping on the back bench most assuredly isn't going to take a hit. That's what the little people are for.
    And those facts my misguided, angry fellow voters (if indeed you can get your self righteous arses out to vote), those are the true legacy costs to all of us. The pensions earned by nurses, police, corrections, MTO workers and the like ARE NOT crippling anything. Largely the are administered through unions at their member's expense and are no more subsidized than they would be by the Private sector.
    The legacy costs that have become a buzz topic for fast votes and little thought come from the Top, starting with the Queen's Park elite and trickling down to the layers upon layers of management laced with cronies and unqualified (remember Walkerton?) overpaid do-nothing's who burden the system and eliminate any competitive spirit the Public Service could have.
    Cuts are needed. They are needed here though, from the top down. NOT the bottom up. All you do by attacking the pensions and workers singled out by Dalton and Timmy is too attack working class people with families like yours who have no voice as they are the scapegoat for the corrupt and empowered.
    Wake up and think.
    1. Samantha P posted on 10/02/2012 10:29 AM
      @Walcott I have to agree with the comment on self serving politicians...my husband was laid off from his job after 16 years, his pension and benefits are probably gone, we have a lawyer his union has provided to all of the workers let go, but we're told there isn't a lot that can be done as the company has declared itself bankrupt and claims there is no money anywhere...mean while their expanding their plants in Mexico suddenly.
      No one is really helping, I'm working 3 jobs now, he's got two and neither of us have time to raise our kids.
      Why don't the MPPs and MPs take a hit like the rest of us?
      Why is it ok to demand working people give up their pensions because government is stupid and backed by corrupt companies?
      The real legacy cost we are paying for is the cost of poor government and corrupt officials.
      I have to go now my supervisor thinks I'm processing returns...welcome to Walmart.
  3. Richard Collins posted on 10/01/2012 05:56 PM
    I support Tim Hudak and his anti-union measures all the way! We need to get the union mentality of "money grows on trees, consequences for failure doesn't exist, and the bare minimum is just as good as excellence" out of our province and out of our lives!
    1. Mark posted on 10/01/2012 07:20 PM
      @Richard Collins There are are no more workers in the public sector who do the minimum a minimum amount out of work then there are in the private sector. Public servants are just easier to pick on.
    2. Thom posted on 10/01/2012 07:49 PM
      @Richard Collins Listen, Richard --- can I call you Dick?
      You may support Hudak, but believe me he doesn't support you any more than he supports me or my family.
      He'll clear the way for increased corporate profits, backdoor privitization deals we'll never hear about (Harris and his gang of theives had more court ordered settlements and undisclosed payouts than any of us will ever know)...and when he's made his connections and made his private partners rich he'll bow out and we'll be left with nothing.
      He's not anti anyrhing....he's pro Tim Hudak, he's pro money and he doesn't even have sense enough to try and look intelligent.
      Support what you like, but in the end you need to give your head a shake.
      The "union mentality?" --- what like a stupid notion that a person who works for a living should earn a living wage...yeah that's stupid, we're better off without that.....look how happy all the former CAT employees in London are that their union got busted and their employer cut them off at the knees because it's all about the bottom line and at the end of the day when people felt that $12 an hour wasn't going to cut it raising families and paying living expenses the company just shut the doors and went down the road to a depressed State where the little guys (us Dick, btw) were starving and a pittence looked like charity.
      That's what you're supporting.
      Moron.
  4. Michael posted on 10/11/2012 11:25 AM
    @Thom, where do I begin?
    Let's start with your offensive treatment of another person who took the time to comment...calling them "dick" and "moron". Name calling is not intelligent debate, it is just plain childish.
    Now, I am not a supporter of either Dalton McGuinty or Tim Hudak, and I don't believe either of them have the tools or policies to effectively govern. That being said, your characterization of Tim Hudak as "pro money" (as if that was a bad thing) is laughable. Money is nothing more than a measure of value, value produced, value traded, value earned.
    You rail against it being "all about the bottom line". Well of course it is all about the bottom line! It has to be all about the bottom line. No bottom line...no money, no wages.
    Money is a good thing, profits are a good thing. They lead to jobs and good wages.
    @Thom, I suggest that you attempt to educate yourself on basic economics and perhaps even read the business section in the paper once in a while.
    Maybe if you do that you will be able to enter a debate on economic issues armed with more than name calling and a few tired old socialist platitudes.
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