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Ontario colleges want to call their diplomas 'degrees'

Posted By: James Moore · 10/11/2012 10:14:00 PM

Ontario's community colleges say many of their 3-year diploma programs are every bit as good as a degree.

Colleges and their students want to be able to re-name some of their 3-year diplomas, 'degrees.'

Colleges Ontario president contends the word 'diploma' itself is outdated and unfamiliar to international students.

She says that may cause them to rule Ontario out as a place to study because they do not understand the term. 

"Around the world, you would be hard-pressed to find a place where a 3-year period of study is called a diploma; they are called degrees," says Franklin.

"They're all called degrees and and awful lot of our advanced diplomas meet the standard for a 3-year degree."

Franklin says term is a potential obstacle for college grads who need a degree to continue their studies or students interested in a college program but worried they will be short-changed on the job market if they do not have a degree.

She adds a degree needs to be defined by what a student is able to do when they complete the program.

"It wouldn't matter whether the degree is taught at a college or a university, the idea is 'what are the learning outcomes the student has to have?' and 'how are they prepared for the work force when they graduate?'"

Franklin believes the move to 'upgrade' the college diploma would be popular.

"More and more parents are telling us 'we want our kids to go to post-secondary education to get career-relevant information and get a job.'"

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  1. Only Common Sense posted on 10/12/2012 08:17 AM
    "Ontario's community colleges say many of their 3-year diploma programs are every bit as good as a degree."
    Sort of like comparing one brand of very cheap wine to another even cheaper. It's still "rot gut". Come on so-called higher learning institutions of all stripes ... there is so little relevant being "taught" under either label that it's past the time to overhaul both. The proof is in the related job placement statistics of graduates ... abysmal ... with very few exceptions.!
  2. Only Common Sense posted on 10/12/2012 08:24 AM
    "She (Colleges Ontario president, Franklin) adds a degree needs to be defined by what a student is able to do when they complete the program."
    Ouch! ... back to the very poor related job statistics... the undeniable proof of "what a student is able to do when they complete the program."
  3. Only Common Sense posted on 10/12/2012 08:31 AM
    +... an awful lot of our advanced diplomas meet the standard for a 3-year degree."
    The choice of the word "awful" is right on the money, Ms Franklin, since its definition is "extremely bad, dreadful or terrible"
  4. Daniel Dickson posted on 10/12/2012 06:40 PM
    I agree with Franklin, I graduated from the Broadcasting and Film program at the Centre For Creative Communications, Centennial College in Dec 2008 and have continuously tried to further my studies but have been told by our big universities that an my 3 year Advance Diploma does not cut it...in getting me to any of their post graduate program.

    I remember in most of the places I have been opportune to work; I, the college grad was the one training the university grads..

    Not only should 3yr Diplomas be switched for degree..also should be backdated as far as 2008, forgive my bias time frame
    1. black tuna posted on 10/14/2012 08:00 PM
      @Daniel Dickson hell no!
      dickson, how much did u pay for your diploma? obviously not as much as what i paid for my ryerson degree, correct? why didnt u apply to the same broadcasting program at a "big university" like ryerson or york instead?
      the ccc campus at centennial is notorious for purposely failing students. so they can continue to come back and pay more money to retake courses. seneca does it too. its bullcrap! my kids are not going to school in this country
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