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VIDEO: Hudak Wants Mandatory Teacher Job Description

Posted By: Katie Franzios · 1/21/2013 1:28:00 PM


Helping kids after school, properly marking report cards and performing some extra curriculars.

These are all things Tim Hudak wants to be mandatory in a teacher's job description.

The declaration from the Ontario Progressive Conservative leader comes as a handful of the province's public teachers reportedly break ranks with their union in its fight against Queen's Park, performing extra curriculars.

Hudak says it's wrong for union heads to fine teachers who want to do all of these things now, which is why he essentially wants to take power away from unions with these proposals.

The Tory leader says because these things were taken out of the Education Act, they can be used as bargaining chips.

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  1. Brandon posted on 01/21/2013 01:44 PM
    I agree that after school help for kids that need it should be required to an extent. If a student asks for some help the teacher should stick around and help the student for something like 30 mins to an hour.

    Properly marking report cards I think is already part of the terms.

    However making extra curricular programs mandatory is not a good idea. Making it mandatory will not work for a lot of teachers and students, because you then get disinterested teachers running some programs. Plus how many teachers are required for the extra curricular programs in the first place? Thinking of my time in high school, with all the programs we had, there was only a need for maybe a 1/4 of the teachers, if that.

    Plus if you make it mandatory, that gives leverage to the teachers to demand more pay, because you've expanded their job description.

    The only reason he is bringing this up is because the unions had teachers use the programs as fodder for the stupid fighting between the government and the unions. Everyone was failing the kids in this regard.
  2. Stug posted on 01/21/2013 01:52 PM
    lot of Ontarians don't care what you want Tim. lots of us don't care about you also!
    1. PETE posted on 01/21/2013 02:02 PM
      @Stug Maybe, but a lot more of us don't care what the teachers and their unions want.
  3. Richard Collins posted on 01/21/2013 02:09 PM
    I cannot wait until we get Mr Hudak into the premier's office with a strong, solid Conservative majority behind him. Right-to-work is desperately needed in this province, along with Hudak's other union-weakening measures. The sooner we get those crooked unions under control, the sooner we'll have control of our own lives back without worrying about teachers endangering our childrens' futures or garbage workers leaving filth and disease to spread all over our cities as they hold us hostage in their petty wars against the province.
    1. Stug posted on 01/21/2013 04:01 PM
      @Richard Collins better chance of Rob Ford playing for goalie for the Leafs
    2. MichaelB_2952 posted on 01/21/2013 08:46 PM
      @Richard Collins Right-to-work may sound nice to right-wingers. However, it would hurt the education of students as teaching would likely become a low-salary, low-interest career. There would likely be a teacher shortage even though there are many qualified teachers. The teachers that would remain would likely be those who may not be successful in other career areas. Note: about half of the current teachers are on their second careers.
  4. MichaelB_2952 posted on 01/21/2013 08:42 PM
    Brandon has a point in that it would not be wise making extra-curriculars mandatory. Students will get disinterested teachers running activities.

    Mr. Hudak must understand that by trying to include extra-curriculars as part of a teacher's job description, the needs of each school will not always be met. For example, there are some schools where 100% of the students are bussed in. Many extra-curricular activities are run at lunch time. Teachers are contractually allowed to have 40 minutes of uninterrupted time during a lunch hour. Very few extra-curricular can take place within a 15 minute time slot as teachers must be legally ready for the students 5 minutes before the bell rings at the end of lunch recess. Also, each school has different populations. Activities that may work in some schools may not work well in others.
  5. Tom posted on 01/22/2013 07:10 AM
    Teachers get paid to do a job...a salary to do a job, just like police, firefighers, doctors, bankers, industry workers...well anyone who doesn't work under commission sales, I guess. That job includes things like doing report cards, meeting with parents, etc If the report cards are not finished, then they didn't do their job. When was the last time your child was sent home without a report card? or without a grade or mark of some sort on the report card? Never?...well that has been my experience as a parent with a child in the system for over the past 10 years, so why is this an issue. I have also never had a teacher refuse to meet with me or make contact with me at a time mutually agreeable whether it be in person or by phone. This is an attempt to micro-manage and it's unacceptable.

    Teachers did not pause their involvement with extracurricular activities to get back at the government or to punish the kids...they did it to get everyone to pay attention to what the government is attempting to do, and that is to infringe on their (a citizen of Ontario, Canada) democratic rights. If you ask any teacher out there about extra curricular activities they will speak of the many benefits of them in creating a positive school climate. In fact, involvement in them, I am told, can make their job of managing a classroom of 24+ students easier because students are less likely to talk back to their basketball coach than they are their teacher. To mandate that someone VOLUNTEERS their time or to rewrite a job description to suit a politicians whim seems unethical. Teachers don't need to be ORDERED to do these extra activities, they already do them and from what I have seen and heard, they enjoy them...so don't make them a chore. Respect the teacher as an individual and don't enslave them into a volunteer commitment....just unacceptable.....again...I thought that we lived in a democracy....
    1. mike posted on 01/22/2013 07:04 PM
      @Tom sounds like another overpaid underworked teacher spewing shit from his piehole!
  6. young nip posted on 01/22/2013 08:01 AM
    Perhaps trim Mr. Hudaks pension.hm,
    1. Chris posted on 01/22/2013 09:04 AM
      @young nip IIRC, MPP's don't receive "pensions" in the typical sense. They do receive a payment of, I believe, 1.5x their final year's salary when they leave office if they've served over a certain number of years, but no ongoing payment.
  7. Mark posted on 01/23/2013 07:01 PM
    I would have preferred that Bill 115 was not imposed and that the greedy teachers were allowed to finish the year at which time they would all be laid off permanently. Then, over the summer the province could hire new teachers. Those who agree to extra curricular activities would be hired. I have lost all respect for teachers. I don't feel the current crop of greedy pigs are morally appropriate to teach our children. After all, we want our children to grow up to contribute to our society, not grow up feeling as if they are entitled, selfish, and lazy.
    1. Chris posted on 01/23/2013 07:32 PM
      @Mark They are, for the most part, greedy and self entitled, yet they think they are above us and that they should be respected and admired. That ship sailed a long time ago. They have a long way to go before people will even like them again, let alone respect them. They have done major damage right across the board and especially to themselves.
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