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Report Recommends Distance-Based Fare System to Pay for Transit Expansion

Posted By: Suzette Francis · 1/29/2013 12:01:00 PM

If you use the TTC to get around, how would you feel about paying more based on how far you're travelling?

That's one idea being tossed around in a 116-page report from the Residential and Civil Construction Alliance of Ontario, on how to expand public transit in the Greater Toronto & Hamilton Area.

The report titled "Financing Roads and Public Transit in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area",  says new sources of revenue are needed to operate and maintain planned projects that Metrolinx has set aside an estimated $50 billion worth of capital for.

The report written by Harry Kitchen, Professor in the Department of Economics at Trent University and Robin Lindsey, Professor in the Sauder School of Business at University of British Columbia, says there could be economic impacts if traffic congestion isn't dealt with.

"The GTHA is Canada's economic powerhouse but this position will slip if traffic congestion is not properly managed through better pricing structures. Unless significant revenues are devoted to infrastructure improvements, it will negatively impact the potential of this region," says Kitchen.

The report also suggests road tolls be introduced on the 400 series highways to raise $40-billion needed to expand public tansit.

The report also addreses the issue of parking downtown, and what would happen if there were fewer spaces at premium prices. It recommends that restructured parking fees be based on occupancy rates, including escalating hourly rates rather than maximum charges.

The group is also calling on the province to look at commercial parking taxes, vehicle taxes and regional fuel or sales taxes.

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  1. proton posted on 01/29/2013 12:38 PM
    how about including the elimination of mismanagement of the TTC by city councillors, more controls over the unions, etc.? Try running it as a business would be run, ie. efficiently and without idiot councillors making it their pet project. Miller insisted on Bombardier subway cars despite the increased cost, Stintz too incompetent to tender bids for retail stores, the St. Clair streetcar disaster, etc. These are some examples of the waste of much needed dollars to fund transit expansion.

    We have councillors that couldn't run a lemonade stand successfully and we put them in charge of a multi-billion dollar business.

    The stupidity is so glaringly obvious!
    1. Acountability? posted on 01/29/2013 03:12 PM
      @proton Rob ford is still hiring lazy asses trash bags and there is still no transparency or accountability! Now we get the bill for this orchestrated mess. Tell the Tamils and Chinese Asian invasion to come back another day. NO MORE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM AHHHH YEA! Population goes up and taxes catch up. I pay for fake nannies of Philippines fake nannies to look at me like as if I belong here in my own country. OUR neighborhood was nice BEFORE THE PHILIPINOSE snuck in with fake credentials and illegal evicting us out of our apartment that we have live in since 1993.
    2. gregrre posted on 01/29/2013 04:41 PM
      @proton TTC is over 70% funded by the fair box, Mississauga less than 50%, In fact TTC is the MOST EFFICIENT in North America based on user pay. Improvements to management are always possible, politics always plays a role in the direction the TTC takes in terms of construction and operation. The public wants subways --- the public has to pay for them. And 'efficencies' and cutting union wages are not going to raise those funds. Only a new revenue stream will do that.
  2. Richard Collins posted on 01/29/2013 12:42 PM
    How about, instead of charging the taxpayers and passengers more to use the TTC, we instead look at places where we can conserve costs. For example, every driver who sends and reads text messages or reads the newspaper while operating on city streets, every fare collector found sleeping in their booth, and every other employee behaving in an unprofessional or dangerous manner, or just not doing their job to begin with. Reduce their paychecks, or fire them outright, and funnel the money that would be going to those delinquents into system improvements and maintenance instead.
  3. Gregrre posted on 01/29/2013 12:49 PM
    How about getting individuals who reside outside Toronto, to help pay for the ttc since they do not pay property taxes The source of The ttc funds since Mike Harris downloaded it to the city. Quite simple add a deduction at the employer level and remit to the city of toronto.
    1. ron posted on 01/29/2013 02:46 PM
      @Gregrre Brilliant idea. Yes, sure people are going to go along with that. I don't use the TTC, dont't intend to use the TTC and I will NOT pay to subsidize the TTC. Maybe if the powers that be were more fiscally responsible it wouldn't be in theis mess. But don't expect outsiders to subsidize it. My taxeas are alreday higher than residents of Toronto.
    2. proton posted on 01/30/2013 07:31 AM
      @Gregrre there we go, blaming Mike Harris. He's been out of office for over 20 years. Why not go back to Confederation and blame John A. Macdonald? I'm sure you can find him at fault for something.

      Successive provincial gov'ts could easely have reversed the funding download, BUT THEY DIDN'T. Why not blame them?

      Miller, Mihevc et al were involved in ordering overpriced subway cars, the st. clair streetcar disaster, overpaying unions and forcing the city to pay union wages even if non-union groups were hired.

      The list of incompetence goes on and on and on, yet you choose Mike Harris who hasn't been involved for over 20 years.

      Interesting!
  4. talent scout posted on 01/29/2013 02:14 PM
    more union baloney... NO more taxes.....Its killing the economy and jobs in the private sector..... Layoff the 650000 Ontario government employees and there will be plenty of money to revitalize economy....People will spend more...businesses will make more and hire more people. These unions are probably working with Ontario Liberal Party to get them re-elected...
    1. Mad man posted on 01/29/2013 03:04 PM
      @talent scout Make refugees pay for the tight fitting shoes and traffic that THEY MADE A LIVING HELL> AS I SPEAK WE ARE BEING EJECTED FOR 61YEAR OLD REFUGEES TAKING A PENSION I AM NOT GOING TO GET While paying for them to kick us off our library computers so they can learn English. Make them PAY SEE THEM RETREAT FASTER.
      What the cluck are they dong here. Another waste of MY TAXES FOR REFUGEES. SAving CAnada???????? OR COSTING US OUR LIVES??? Asian invasion is bad take a look at the traffic.
      BRING BACK HEAD TAXES THAT THE CHINESE SHOULD HAVE KEPT PAYING TO PREVENT THIS OVER CROWDING MESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
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