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AUDIO: TTC to review late news stand bid, Stintz defends original deal

Posted By: James Moore · 1/31/2013 5:55:00 AM

There is a chance that a controversial city contract to run 65 news stands at TTC subway stations will be opened up to competition, after all.

In a letter to TTC Commissioners, TTC Chair Karen Stintz spoke up about the so-called 'sole source' contract given to Tobmar International, otherwise known as Gateway.

Stintz has asked that a new offer received late Tuesday night from International News be to subject to a third-party review.

Mayor Rob Ford responded on Wednesday, saying that he was glad Stintz and the Commission had 'seen the light.'

"I'm glad that they've realised they've made a mistake and they're going to revisit it," Ford says.

However, Karen Stintz disagrees with Ford's assertion that she and the Commission made an error.

"We're not re-visiting anything, I've simply asked for a third-party review to be done," Stintz says.

She adds that if the review shows that the International News bid offers the city more value, then she will reconsider her position.

Stintz remains confident that the Gateway bid is the best solution.

"If we decide not to proceed with this lease negotiation and we do go to an (open bidding process) for 2014, we will lose $3 million dollars of revenue to the TTC that has been included in our budget and they is real money for taxpayers," she says.

Ford claims the deal could have been at least $5 million richer if it had been put to an open market.

Stintz also faced questions about just how dysfunctional the relationship is between she and the mayor, after both Stintz and Ford admitted they had not talked about the contract in the 3 months that it was being hashed out by the Transit Commission.

"I think that this business deal has become a political issue and I think that the mayor has agreed that we have a way of moving forward that is going to help address his concerns and still help us get on with the business of the TTC, which I think this deal is distracting from," says Stintz.

She adds the review on the International News offer will be presented at the next Transit Commission meeting.

Mayor Ford and his brother Councillor Doug Ford attacked Stintz over the Gateway contract, worth $48 million over 15 years.  On Sunday's edition of NEWSTALK 1010's The City, Doug called the TTC Chair out for what he perceives as a lack of business experience. 

(with files from Dave Bradley)

Letter to TTC commissioners from chair Karen Stintz:

Dear Commissioners:
 
By now, you should have received an “unconditional” offer from International News, submitted at 8:00 pm yesterday evening, with respect to operating the newsstands within the subway system.  I learned about this proposal at 9:45 PM last evening through the media, and reviewed it for the first time this morning.
 
While the proposal claims to be unconditional the terms of the proposal are very unclear, since the current leases do not expire until 2014 at the earliest.
 
I cannot explain why this proposal was not submitted over the course of the last four months when this issue was before the Commission; however, I believe that it should be reviewed in the interest of fairness and transparency.  I will be asking TTC staff to conduct a third-party review of the International News proposal against the Gateway proposal and to provide a briefing note to the Commissioners before the next meeting.  This third-party review should include commentary from legal and real-estate experts and will evaluate the terms of each proposal for value-for-money, the current relationship each tenant has with its respective landlord(s), and the customer-service impact on the TTC.
 
If you feel there are other components regarding this issue which need to be covered by such a third-party review please forward them to me.
 
I feel strongly that this review be conducted by a third-party since TTC staff have been inconsistent in their recommendations to the Commission.
 
I also believe very strongly that this issue has become a distraction to the good work that is going on at the TTC.  This needs to end.  Andy Byford agrees with me.
 
This review, I believe, will still demonstrate that the Tobmar/Gateway lease extension proposal is very solid. It makes enormous business sense to extend leases for good tenants when the rents are increased by 67%. This is not a sole-source contract.  It is a lease-extension and a very common practice throughout the TTC, the City and its Agency, Boards and Commissions where there is a landlord-tenant relationship.
 
For the record, the Mayor has yet to contact me on this issue.
 
Thank you.
Yours truly,
Karen Stintz

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  1. proton posted on 01/30/2013 03:05 PM
    get rid of stintz once and for all. Let Byford do the great job he's doing. All this political interference by these councillors (and former mayor miller) have cost hundreds of millions of dollars of waste.

    We need business people to oversee/work with Byford, not a bunch of yahoos that couldn't run a lemonade stand without a deficit.

    Many years ago we had a great TTC head David Gunn who upped and left because of all the interference from the likes of moscoe and co. Have we learned nothing since then?
  2. sam posted on 01/30/2013 03:39 PM
    what is outrageous is that stintz believes this is a great deal; a great deal for the unions and the status quo but not for the public. she has to be fired, resign for just believeing this is a great deal how uncreative and boring is she, get lost before the city becomes broke like the provence. I am gay and still supporting Ford.
  3. james marshall posted on 01/30/2013 03:41 PM
    Karen:

    Deal or no Deal?
  4. bac posted on 01/30/2013 03:47 PM
    Her arrogance knows no bounds. She needs to be gone! She is in over her head but loves the media and loves being in it. She is a BIMBO.
  5. Stug posted on 01/30/2013 04:20 PM
    (Andy Byford agrees with me.)

    (For the record, the Mayor has yet to contact me on this issue.)

    http://www.karenstintz.com/?p=2112

    i guess Rob Ford doesn't really care after all!! he just enjoys the microphone along with brother, take cheap shots when the other side is not there to defend themselves but to follow up or get briefings from his staff he has too much on his mind for that stuff.
    phone messages left
    1. proton posted on 01/30/2013 04:25 PM
      @Stug this just proves her pettiness and complete incompetence. she can't handle the task and the faster she's removed the faster the TTC can get on with doing what it needs to. Too bad she can't be kicked out as a councillor too.
  6. mike posted on 01/30/2013 04:30 PM
    I am reasonably certain Ms Stintz is better educated than the the BAC who called her a bimbo since she usually articulates her thoughts with more than the two syllable words BAC could string together. And Sam the 82 year old virgin... stop pretending! We all know gay people can spell better than you can. The TTC extended the lease on the current Gateway Newstands which is in good standing. These stands are all franchised by independents. The logistics of shutting them down in favour of someone else coming in is a nightmare. Secondly what did International News bid look like? I have my doubts a Canadian company could actually match the money an american is willing to put up. And in a time when we are scraping to get funding for transit please don't come at me with a holier than thou "it shouldn't just be about money" bullsh!t argument. I am a Rob Ford supporter but attacking Karen Stintz before knowing the facts is ridiculous. Even Rob should have known better. The mayor with the radio show runs his mouth a bit much. And you are calling Karen the media whore... wth?
    1. BAC posted on 01/30/2013 04:50 PM
      @mike Awfully defensive when it comes to Ms. Stintz aren't we? You must be her husband or maybe Adam Vaughan! Glad you are reasonably certain that Ms. Stintz is better educated than I, because you would know that wouldn't you. As for being reasonably sure about anything, I am reasonably sure that no one will come at you with their "holier than thou , "it should be about money", unless of course you are a city councillor. And yes, she is a media whore.
  7. franklin posted on 01/30/2013 05:32 PM
    Stinz is wrong but I admire how she stays in the discussion and responds to her critics. But we need competent gov. to squeeze out every dime in our favour. Toronto now spends $8K per person per year and hasn't even found a few hundred dollars from that for transit. How can police horses be more imporatant than transit? 40% more police per capita than in surrounding cities per capita? Ditto for firefighters?

    If the $19K spent by the province and city per person every year, surely they can put together $600 to $800 yto a dedicatesd fund for transit - a mere 1.5 to 2%.

    The deficit at $1K per capita per year can be retired easily by cutting waste in any one of medicare, education, overstaffing, fake sick days. The list is endless. Let's not worry about tne deficit for anothe rminute. The debt, though, deserves attention.
  8. franklkin posted on 01/30/2013 05:36 PM
    Will Toronto be astute enough to create bidding war out of the news-stand competition? That's what we need. Not a mindless comparison in which one is picked. We desperately need business folks at the helm on these deals, not politicians!
  9. proton posted on 01/31/2013 09:19 AM
    George Jonas wrote a brilliant analysis 30/1/13 in National Post of a major problem with our political system and the incompetence we frequently complain about.

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/01/30/george-jonas-the-problem-with-democracy-its-biased-toward-the-incompetent/

    It begs the question "Which leader/party will have the guts to make a fundamental paradigm shift?"
  10. don cherry was right posted on 01/31/2013 10:05 AM
    The question is not whether she talked to Ford, but what level of incompetence is she demonstrating by not haveing called for an open tender from the get go.

    And while we are at it, hasn't the City sold the CNE to former managers without a tender as well? Sounds like a great deal.
    http://www.citynews.ca/2012/01/27/cne-wants-to-run-independently-without-city-cash/
  11. Stug posted on 01/31/2013 11:00 AM
    Ford and his staff is fully aware months previous. Byford ok's it. no communication at all. she tries to meet with him no reply from Ford but Ford decides to throw Stintz under the bus on air anyway. he just screwed himself even further.
    pay back is coming baby!! do it Karen
    1. Drew posted on 01/31/2013 01:09 PM
      @Stug Checkout the TTC Bus Shelter installed at Royal York & Lakeshore Blvd West, it has no side panels with a 3' roof, this is the type of Bus Shelter you would see in Florida, not in Toronto with the kind of winters we get.
      Who cut that deal Stintz.
    2. Cam posted on 01/31/2013 01:27 PM
      @Stug Screwed himself even firther than what? How do you figure he is screwed. Wow, you really hate this guy, so in your little pretend worls anything you say or feel is going to make him go away as Mayor! Not hapennin' Stug, not happenin'. So you might want to drink yourself into oblivion until the next election, or whatever it is you do to come up with your fantasies about Rob. You do seem to have an awful crush on Karen though!
  12. Drew posted on 01/31/2013 01:05 PM
    This deal stinks, i deal with the City of Toronto, thay cant spend $50,000 without going for 3 x quotes yet Stintz can award a $50,000.000 order without going out for tender.
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