Wynne Isn't McGuinty

Posted By: Dave Agar · 1/28/2013 10:05:00 AM

She's not even Premier-designate yet but the opposition parties are already branding Saturday night's Liberal leadership victory by Kathleen Wynne as just more of the same McGuinty-era politics.

Gilles Bisson the NDP house leader was doing that live as part of NewsTalk 1010's indepth coverage of the convention Saturday night and he stayed on message Sunday.


In her first news conference as Liberal leader, Kathleen Wynne made it clear that she will be pointing out the missteps of the McGuinty Government. Now obviously she won't be pre-occupied with that.

If I may take a moment and say to the critics who say one Liberal is as bad as another Liberal, this notion of same-old, same-old. It's been said of Tories and New Democrats too, but it is simply not true.

New leaders typically have new ideas and new ways of doing business.  Many of us have gone through this with a new boss.

Just because Kathleen Wynne was part of the McGuinty cabinet doesn't mean she will run headlong into scandals such as ORNGE or the power plants.  When you are a member of cabinet you are sworn to follow cabinet decisions. If you don't, you are out. Some Premiers and Prime Minister's rule cabinet with an iron fist.  Others take a more co-operative approach and seek out consensus but once the decision is made all ministers must tow the line but when you become the leader, you decide how you want things done. What I'm getting at it is this:  it is much too soon to be arguing that Wynne is McGuinty, McGuinty is Wynne. Voters should see this type of criticism for what it is, a bid to score cheap political points. There will be plenty of opportunity to find fault with Kathleen Wynne, like there is with any politician so can we just forget about the histrionics.

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  1. Brandon posted on 01/28/2013 11:52 AM
    Well, does it mean that we should forget all the mismanagment and arogance, closing the parlament because Dalton&CO is unable to handle the truth?
    1. proton posted on 01/28/2013 04:42 PM
      @Brandon She was there in major portfolios during most if not all of the liberal disasters. She's merely another wolf in sheep's clothing.

      To those who suggest we give her time and a chance, what time and a chance did taxpayers get when we were systematically screwed by this government? Do you hear ANY of mcchicken's disasters being reversed?

      This government is as tainted as the federal liberals were with the sponsorship scandal and the conservatives when mulroney decimated the conservatives.

      the only difference is ontario voters seem to be less than intelligent here by continually voting for these liberals.

      Let's hope for a vote of no confidence and an election that will bring in a government that respects taxpayers hard-earned dollars.
    2. tanjo posted on 01/29/2013 02:36 PM
      @Brandon We don't forget, but let's give her a chance to make things right, and make our decision in a year and a half. Personally, I don't want to risk any of the current leaders in power with a majority right now.
  2. Greg posted on 01/29/2013 06:56 AM
    Ok, so we give her a fair chance. But if we let the Liberals skate on all the scandals and outrageous spending just because they have a new leader then I guess McGuinty's plan worked. He took one for the Liberal brand and now they get a do-over. Time will tell but i don't have a lot of hope for Wynne.
    1. tanjo posted on 01/29/2013 02:31 PM
      @Greg After stepping down in disgrace, leaving things in chaos and having everyone pointing the finger at him, I highly doubt McGuinty would say his plan "worked".
  3. Tired of waiting posted on 01/29/2013 01:39 PM
    Dave Agar's partisanship has been coming through loud and clear for the last 6 months. "Let's cut our new premier some slack".

    Why? Same old same old tricks and lies from another liberal. The only difference with this one is that not a single person in the province she is supposed to be leading has voted for her.

    How much slack would you have liked to see given if Doug Ford was put in as Mayor if his brother was kicked out by the Liberal lefty and his clan of henchman? Or is that Liberal math equates $2,000 in donations to mutli-billion dollars of mismanagement (I prefer calling it theft but let's cut them some slack).

    You should really try to be a little less bias in your commentary's. I used to look forward to your commentary now I turn you off and travel down the dial a little bit until you're done. Slack. They have not earned anything besides a boot in the back side! Good riddance Liberal's time of reckoning is near!
  4. Brad posted on 01/29/2013 06:54 PM
    The Liberal bus has smashed through the guard-rail come to a stop about 150 meters into the swamp. McGuinty spun his tires for about 5 minutes before he gave up. Now the Liberal party has spent 4 months deciding who would be the best person to designate as the new driver. Meanwhile the people of Ontario got zero information or explanations from ( tapping on the glass ) about what the hell happened and why. In fact they managed to have a 4 month campaign without saying anything. Now Kathleen Wynne is in the drivers seat and many people are distracted by the gay non-issue. Perhalps instead voters should realize they are about to be the ones knee deep in mud pushing while Kathleen and her Liberals spins mud in our faces and tells us the past is the past. The only thing worse will be listening to the Conservatives whine... My advice...??? watch hockey because this may numb your senses away from reality.
  5. Stephen posted on 01/30/2013 10:24 AM
    No one is now branding Ms Wynne, she was branded by her involvement while supporting all of McGuinty's fiascos. She cannot now claim to be different, after having been involved in the inner circle of his circus. She is more than guilty by association, this allowing her time or a chance is a farce, she had her chance to make a difference while in cabinet and she did not. The Liberals made a huge mistake in not bringing in a new leader someone with no ties to McGuinty or this current Liberal government. Their only salvation is that Hudak seems to be bent on a course to pull a John Tory and crash and burn his party when this gift has been handed to him.
    1. Angry Bill posted on 02/01/2013 02:22 PM
      @Stephen John Tory's only fault was being honest and a man of principle. Ok, two faults. Such men tend to not do well in politics, for obvious reasons.
  6. proton posted on 01/30/2013 03:21 PM
    Agar is right, Wynne isn't mcchicken. He was born with balls but was too chicken to use them. Wynne wasn't born with them and time will tell if she has strapped on a set or not.

    I don't care what gender or sexual orientation or ethnic origin our political leaders are, I just want a GOOD responsible intelligent gutsy leader.
  7. Angry Bill posted on 02/01/2013 02:17 PM
    I hate to say this, but it bears being said. Two terms ago, the voters of Ontario had a choice. They could have chosen an honest man to run the province. Instead, they chose a career politician. Um.. hello... you maybe expected a different outcome during his reign? So, the voters were dumb once. They voted the Fiberals in. Then, the inexplicable happened. The voters of Ontario voted the Fiberals in for a second term. At that point, I tossed my arms up in the air and said to all who would listen, that Ontario deserved the government it voted for. The chickens have come home to roost, baby. Deal with it.
    1. Stephen posted on 02/01/2013 06:31 PM
      @Angry Bill Bill just because you support Tory doesn't make the voters in this province dumb, particularly those voters in the two ridings where he has run for office and lost on both occasions. Hard to believe that these voters were wrong on both occasions.
  8. Mark posted on 02/02/2013 09:28 PM
    IMO Agar has always been a screaming lefty, always pompous and condescending. Wynne is nothing more than a new leader for a bunch of seemingly corrupt lefty politicians. Watch Wynne buy off the teachers in the next 10 days or so. Maybe Agar would be willing to chip in some money to help the corrupt liberals pay back the gas plant billion that they spent getting their minority during the last election. BTW, why are not some Liberals going to jail over that ?? Stick to the news Davie, you have nothing intelligent to add.
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