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Deputy Mayor Looks at Calling in Army for Ice Storm Clean Up

Report says Norm Kelly is considering calling in army for ice storm clean up.

Remember when former Toronto mayor Mel Lastman called in the army during the big dump of snow in 1999?  That move made Toronto the butt of numerous jokes over the years since, but it’s a move Toronto’s Deputy Mayor is considering after the massive ice storm that brought down trees and power lines throughout the city on December 21st

According to the Globe and Mail Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly said he is “exploring” whether to call in the army in order to help rid the city of downed trees and tree limbs that littered streets and came down on homes during the storm. 

“It’s just [a question of] manpower.  It’s just, if we can get a lot of guys here and we can get into neighbourhoods and just say, ‘Hey, can we give you a hand and get that stuff out?’…I’m not sure technically how the army and its reserves could fit into that, so it’s something I’m exploring,” Kelly told the Globe. 

On Thursday the city announced that it would cost $75-million to clean up the fallen trees and other debris.  The work could take up to eight weeks and would require 600 employees to work seven days a week.

A call to bring in the army must first go through the province before the request is relayed to Ottawa.

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  1. Walter posted on 01/03/2014 08:30 AM
    First this guy actually supports the Wynne boondoggle about the Food Cards - which was poorly planned, both financially and logistically.

    Now he wants to call the army for a non priority clean-up. How incompetent are the people down at City Hall? He makes Ford look good.
    1. HP posted on 01/03/2014 08:49 AM
      @Walter Food Cards are the result of the generosity of Loblaw, they contributed the original $25,000 matched by the province. This is not a provincial program but a seed planted by a private company. What we need are more corporate sponsors to keep the program going, not negative posters that look for opportunities to politicize every good work. Good going Loblaw!

      Secondly, if this storm had struck anywhere in America, the National Guard would have been mobilized with 24 hours...the state governors would have pitched in with all resources, regardless of the cost. This is the primary mission of their NG, problem in Canada is that politicians like Ford refused to declare an emergency leaving the residents of Toronto without all available help.
      Of course they should call in the army, we have combat engineers stationed at Fort York, huge resources at Base Borden and Trenton...all sitting on their butts because of a very stupid mayor who is more interested in political turf wars at our expense.
    2. George W. posted on 01/03/2014 09:41 AM
      @HP Um, it was Kathleen Wynne and her backroom boys who politicized these private companies' acts of generosity not the poster.

      The National Guard and FEMA did such a stellar job in their response to hurricane Katrina. NOT! I don't think we need the American system as our role model.
    3. alex posted on 01/03/2014 10:11 AM
      @Walter I didn't vote for the guy, just like I didn't vote for the GUY in the premiers office. We are losing democracy more and more everyday and people somehow just dont get it. Canadians will call the cops if someone pick pockets them for $5 but these idiots can set up shop and rob us blind and waste our money we work so hard for and ppl just dont seem to give a crap.
    4. Angry Bill posted on 01/03/2014 02:01 PM
      @HP You're entitled to your opinion, of course... but your opinion is considered "wrong" by the experts. Ford's decision to not call in the military initially was the right decision, according to the people in charge of infrastructure. Calling them in would have done absolutely nothing in getting people's power back any quicker. It would have been just a huge expense and waste. And people such as yourself would have then attacked the mayor for wasting all that money for nothing.

      And your "very stupid mayor who is more interested in political turf wars at our expense" is the same stupid mayor who showed up at a Toronto resident's home with a chainsaw to help clear fallen branches, after a private contractor quoted the guy over 5 grand to do it.

      And the deputy mayor, Norm "et tu, Brute" Kelly saw nothing wrong with heading south to be with family when this disaster first hit Toronto. The people Norm was supposed to be looking after didn't have the luxury to skip to a warmer climate to eat dinner with family. They were too busy freezing with no electricity, and abandoning plans for Christmas.
    5. dama posted on 01/03/2014 02:26 PM
      @HP If this was left to Loblaw and other corporate companies to manage, it would be smoother than what Kathryn Wynne had done, Wynne politicised the situation.

      Even the city manager stated that declaring an emergency would not make those work any faster, Rob Ford hater will stil be a Rob Ford hater even tho Rob Ford performed remarkably well during the ice storm unlike Norm Kelly that took a FLORIDA day, why arent you on his case ?

      The same ice storm struck some of the US states too, I didnt read about governors declaring any emergency or calling the NG.

      Always easy to point the finger at someone else.. and HP , you have he chance now to not vote for Rob Ford..
    6. AC posted on 01/03/2014 02:59 PM
      @Walter makes Ford look good?
      Now lets not leap off into the deep end without a helmet with comparisons like that. i'm not a huge fan of Kelly but he at least seems mentally stable unlike..
    7. Karl Burgin posted on 01/03/2014 03:32 PM
      @AC Denial doesn't look good on you. And ANGRY BILL spelled it out quite correctly.
      Only except, I thought it was Doug Ford was the one with the chainsaw, willing to cut down the tree?

      Nevertheless, don't let your prejudice get in the way...
    8. AC posted on 01/03/2014 03:43 PM
      @Karl Burgin ok i won't now will you get lost. you're creeping me out just like the Fords
    9. Angry Bill posted on 01/06/2014 10:15 AM
      @Karl Burgin Sorry, Karl.. when I heard the story on the radio, I assumed they were talking about Rob. So if it was Doug, then that kinda blows my point away.. but still.. hehe.
  2. SG posted on 01/03/2014 08:37 AM
    Yesterday these folks came out with a plan to clean up the debris complete with manpower assigned and time and cost estimates. Today the deputy mayor is thinking about calling in the army. Can these people down at city hall not make a decision and stick to it? Why are we paying these politicians when they don't know what they're doing from one minute to the next?
    1. dama posted on 01/03/2014 02:34 PM
      @SG and yet they stripped Rob Ford of all his power, considering he performed rather well during this ice storm.. ..
  3. Karl Burgin posted on 01/03/2014 09:07 AM
    More likely than not, this shows the inexperience of Norm Kelly in municipal politics. Can't 100% blame him though. I think the blame more should go to his trusty puppeteer masters that reside in city council- who is probably prompting and probing him to do something.
    I'm betting now he probably rues the day he was "elected" to fill in for Doug Holyday.
  4. alex posted on 01/03/2014 10:12 AM
    I didn't vote for the guy, just like I didn't vote for the GUY in the premiers office. We are losing democracy more and more everyday and people somehow just dont get it. Canadians will call the cops if someone pick pockets them for $5 but these idiots can set up shop and rob us blind and waste our money we work so hard for and ppl just dont seem to give a crap.
  5. Me Myself posted on 01/03/2014 11:01 AM
    Message to Norm Kelly and all the other City Councillors who would even consider such a foolish option: THE ARMY IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL CLEANING SERVICE! Have you ever thought of calling an Employment agency and offering temporary work to the unemployed? With all the businesses closing down because of the Provincial Liberals failure to keep manufacturing in Ontario I'm sure you will have a lineup of willing people ready to work. Final message to career politicians: go get a real job so you can get some real life experience!!!
  6. john posted on 01/03/2014 11:02 AM
    i agree i did not vote for those morons either . these people got the jobs . illegally . the mayor was striped of his powers illegally . and mc chicken chit ran away .

    it is no surprise thay f$%$%# ed this up . with the food cards . time to get our house in order . rember the BS that has been going on when we have a election .
  7. Frankie posted on 01/03/2014 11:30 AM
    This is Kelly trying to show up Ford.

    Army should have been called in when McGuinty showed his cowardice with Caledonia.

    Too bad the army can't be called in to take over Queen's Park from the Liberals
    1. john posted on 01/03/2014 12:17 PM
      @Frankie i agree sadly we are not in the right country that would do that .
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/03/2014 01:05 PM
      @Frankie That idea is golden! Is there someway we can legislate that?
      March the Liberals to POW camps at gunpoint- I can picture it now.
    3. dama posted on 01/03/2014 02:33 PM
      @Frankie Exactly.. shouldn't Rob Ford the one calling in the army if he chose to instead of Kelly? You are 100% correct that NK is showing up Rob Ford even Denzil Minnan Wong too for he is the chair of public work, and Denzel also disagree with calling in the army..

      N K is tryng to score points..
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 01/03/2014 03:34 PM
      @dama The man instead is shooting himself in the ankle....
      But I have a feeling that he has Councillors prompting him to do it, rather than him coming up with this idea all by himself.
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