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Report claims storms cost Toronto $171-million

City manager looking for financial assistance from Province and the Feds

Toronto's city manager is recommending that city council ask the provincial and federal governments for financial assistance to help pay for damage caused by two storms in 2013.    

A report to Toronto council on Wednesday says last month's ice storm and flooding in July 2013 will cost the city in excess of $171 million.    

It suggests council request that the municipal affairs minister declare Toronto a ``disaster area'' in an effort to get relief due to the estimated $106 million in costs from last month's ice storm.    

As a result of the winter storm, more than 300,000 Toronto Hydro customers were without power, and there was extensive damage to infrastructure and trees in the city.

Costs resulting from the July 8 rain storm that inundated parts of the Toronto area are estimated at $65.2 million.    

The report recommends Toronto also request additional provincial and federal disaster assistance for the city and Toronto Hydro through any current relevant programs.

Meantime, Mississauga mayor Hazel McCallion is planning to call all of the mayor's in the GTA to develop a single strategy to ask the Wynne government for disaster relief.

Mississauga's ice storm tab sits somewhere around $25-million, while Brampton's tab is $51-million.

Toronto's city manager Joe Pennachetti has been given to understand that the total damage for the region would come in somewhere near $250-million.

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  1. Frankie posted on 01/09/2014 07:05 AM
    The Liberals "stole" over $ 1 Billion from us and they're only being asked to return $ 250 Million. That's only 25¢ of every dollar stolen.
    1. SCOTT posted on 01/09/2014 09:40 AM
      @Frankie Why should the taxpayers in Ontario and the rest of Canada pay for Toronto's costs if there was no emergency? If I lived in Vancouver I'd be pissed if my tax dollars were sent to Toronto to clean up it's street.

      It's time to respect the taxpayers across Ontario and Canada.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 09:45 AM
      @SCOTT 1.> Its not just Toronto- it's also the major cities outside Toronto as well (i.e. Brampton, Mississauga)
      2.> Toronto and the GTA/Ontario is literally the economic engine of Canada. If there's a major hiccup here, believe me, it's going to be felt afar.
      3,> Whatever happened to Canadians helping Canadians- especially within their own borders. When did Canada start developing such a snobbish attitude?
  2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 09:42 AM
    Unless the Libs are planning on pulling that type of money out of their asses, or using their personal bank accounts, I highly doubt they will be able to pony up that type of money.
    I wonder what would happen if they need funding to support one of their lofty projects...where will the money magically come from?
    1. contiki posted on 01/09/2014 10:34 AM
      @Karl Burgin I wouldn't expect the provincial government to pay the full amount that is being requested by the various cities, but they and the feds should put in their fair share.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 10:46 AM
      @contiki Yes....all what you've said it's true.
      But it is rather amusing to think that the provincial Libs alone have that type of money set aside for extreme weather emergencies- such as what we've experienced recently....would be like almost getting blood from a stone.
      But when it comes time for them to blow money up the wazoo, they have no problem finding it.

      But again, I do agree that the the feds should be contributing to this. And we should also thank our lucky stars that Wynne/McGuinty we're never in power on a federal level. Because there probably wouldn't have been any money to spare there as well.
  3. KarenW_5 posted on 01/09/2014 09:55 AM
    Why do the cities not have contingency funds for this type of problem? There should always be "rainy/snow day" funds put aside. We did not have the devastation like they did in Manitoba or Alberta. Do the folks on the east coast ask for hand-outs every time they have problems. Suck it up GTA - pay your own freight.
  4. STARCHILD posted on 01/09/2014 10:42 AM
    It is time for people to realize that no politicians and governments will solve problems. What they really good at is to screw everybody. The world is laughing at Canadians, especially Ontario, about the massive idiocy going around here. Look around streets and roadsides in Ontario. Why the hell they have trees planted right under and besides power lines? Is it real mental challenge to figure out what is going to happen if trees and branches fall on wires? Are these "experts" really think the weather will change in their favor? The cost of restoring power $171M and the lost days are not even included here. Is it not possible to be proactive and put some real engineering in power distribution? This country really needs a radical change otherwise the politics will flush down on toilet everything we worked for(actually...already did)
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 10:49 AM
      @STARCHILD "It is time for people to realize that no politicians and governments will solve problems."

      Of course we should look to governments to solve our problems. Why else would Kathleen Wynne push for the gift card program? We have to look to our government for aid in times of crisis.......!@#!@#!!@#!#@#$^$%&@@#@^@@$&&@!#

      Sorry, my fingers cramped typing that pile of horse manure. You're bang on STARCHILD.
  5. john posted on 01/09/2014 11:05 AM
    i agree the liberals should pay for the whole thing . thay stole money form us we have to fine them and throw them in jail .
  6. Stug posted on 01/09/2014 12:05 PM
    yeah get the provincial tax payer to pay. wait that's all of us here plus some. only one tax payer folks.
    Goog God some people commenting are so stupid. must be Ford supporters.
    I can just hear that hard working mine worker in Sudbury saying why should i pay more taxes for that effed up city to the south
    1. Frankie posted on 01/09/2014 02:10 PM
      @Stug That mine worker has gotten lots of help in difficult times, that's how this country works. We help other regions as needed and if we need help, we should also get it.

      Of course the Liberals have mismanaged this province so effectively I wonder how long it'll be before we become a "have" province again.

      Your comments about Ford supporters being stupid should really be aimed at Ontario Liberal voters. They have to be the stupidest voters in the history of this country.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 03:43 PM
      @Stug ....and your response just opened up why Ford supporters support Ford- and don't really much care what he does in his personal life; it matters to a point- but not to the extent the anti-Ford crowd likes to express.

      Because in the end, Ford is the financially responsible one, who doesn't have a track record of blowing away money. I know the argument is going to rear its ugly head about cancelling projects Miller had already started- but that's getting beside the point.
      Whereas on the other hand, you have a Liberal government, in power for 10+ years, that has demonstrated their inability to handle expenses on any level, and are yet rewarded by always being re-elected.
  7. Wallie posted on 01/09/2014 01:04 PM
    Toronto always has a "Surprise Surplus" at the end of every budgetary year. They can use that to pay for this Surprise Ice Storm; BECAUSE WE ALL have clean up bills from this Ice Storm! Not just Toronto! Take you heads outta your butts and STOP crying for help every time something unexpected happens.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 01:14 PM
      @Wallie ....yeah ok.
      But it's not just Toronto- it's also Mississauga, Brampton, and a couple other municipalities as well.
      And the idea to come together to ask for assistance from the province and the feds are from Hazel McCallion.

      Like I said before, if the GTA has a hiccup, it's bound to be felt at some point province-wide- if not the country.

      Again, Wynne went about this all wrong, and now she has wasted money in a gift card program (for the purpose of politicking)- and now may not have the money to support this.
    2. Angry Bill posted on 01/09/2014 02:01 PM
      @Karl Burgin She can't afford not to, not after the gift card thing. Can you imagine the optics if she said no? What I predict will happen is she will pass this on to the feds, and predicate her response on theirs.. and if the feds say no, she'll claim there's nothing she can do.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 01/09/2014 02:23 PM
      @Angry Bill Interesting point- and you're probably right.

      She likes to come on the radio with John Tory- so I assume another "on the radio" talk will be coming soon at some point. Will be very interesting to see how she spins this one.
      I look forward to hearing her voice your prediction....lol
    4. Frankie posted on 01/09/2014 02:38 PM
      @Karl Burgin Unfortunately Tory's too soft which is why I believe he never got a majority for the Tories. He should have been on McGuinty with Caledonia every day non-stop, just like the Star was with Ford, then with everything else McGuinty did wrong.

      If he really had balls he'd ask Wynne when we can expect repayment of the $ 1 Billion they "stole" and that question should be asked every time she's interviewed by the media.

      Media is too easily swayed by being deflected onto nothing while ignoring the real issues.
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