Hospital CEO Wants You to Know How Much You're Costing Health Care System

The CEO of Windsor Regional Hospital David Musyj says people really have "no clue" and he feels each of us should get an annual summary of all OHIP charges.

Have you ever wondered the dollar value of how much you use in health care each year?

The CEO of Windsor Regional Hospital David Musyj says people really have "no clue" and he feels each of us should get an annual summary of all OHIP charges.  He feels it would be an "eye-opening experience."

Musyj feels that patients would appreciate the health care system more if they knew exactly how much their treatment costs.

At Queen's Park the Wynne Government says providing these summaries would take money away from frontline care.

The PC's think it is an idea worth pursuing.

France Gelinas the NDP health critic says giving people a physical statement of expenses would be a waste of time and money but she would be in favour of posting the information online where people could access their personal OHIP information.

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  1. Angry Bill posted on 01/13/2014 10:37 AM
    Looks good on the surface, but totally unnecessary.

    For one, the people who don't abuse the system wouldn't be impacted by knowing the cost breakdown, because they don't abuse the system. You're preaching to the choir, there.

    For the rest, those people who do abuse the system.. they wouldn't care at all what the cost is, as long as someone pays it. I know someone who thinks nothing of calling 911 if she has a bit of a headache. She thinks that's what it's there for. I won't tell you what country she's from, it doesn't really matter. But maybe in that country, they don't have a 911, and so she believes it's just like a call to the family doctor to renew a subscription. I've seen similar cavalier attitudes toward 911 by similar people, and making the costs known will have zero impact on how these people abuse the system. They just won't get it, or care.

    So in the end, this isn't a good idea. Don't divert money to this. That being said, this information is already collected and reported upon.. simply make that report visible to the public, if they're interested. Shouldn't need to really spend millions on a separate reporting system.
  2. Loretta posted on 01/13/2014 11:01 AM
    So they want to create jobs to tell us how much money was spent. There is no way to curtail these expenses so why stress those using the system correctly or not. Hudak thinks this is worth considering gives me cause to question his leadership
  3. Jack posted on 01/13/2014 12:40 PM
    It makes sense to me. Bring it on!
  4. ZP posted on 01/13/2014 12:43 PM
    What would make this better is if people who abuse the system and use more than "their share" are then charged to cover the extra cost of keeping them healthy. Especially in cases like drug overdoses and drunken antics gone wrong where the injuries are someone's own stupid fault.
    1. loretta posted on 01/13/2014 04:13 PM
      @ZP I would support this idea if there was no wasted spending. However, I would not be receptive to this bill with the excessive spending that I evident with any visit to the hospital
  5. Karl Burgin posted on 01/13/2014 01:22 PM
    The most interesting (and telling) part of this story, is how each party react.

    In the end, I'll have lean to the side of agreeing with "releasing the numbers".
    Ultimately, we have to have a more transparent government:
    1.> Because they serve us, and thus we need to know what we're spending our money on. Especially when one party in particular is bent on raising fees and taxes, because they claim that they're broke....(hmmm... I wonder why?)
    2.> And because we're broke, if there's any room for improvement, savings or efficiencies, releasing the numbers is the only way to do it. Unfortunately, too many of our bureaucrats live in a bubble, and are FAR disconnected with the reality we all live in. Don't believe me- go ask the people at OPG how grand life is for them.....
  6. Ernie posted on 01/13/2014 03:20 PM
    On an individual basis its irrelevant how much is spent. It will just build resentment of those who are healthy and paying taxes against those who are sick and using the system more - whether necessarily or unnecessarily.

    Of bigger benefit would be average numbers. What is the average person in Ontario costing the province in health care.

    What is the average treatment cost for a heart attack

    What is the average cost for a kidney transplant

    Stuff like that.
  7. Justin posted on 01/13/2014 04:00 PM
    I'm in favour of this; the sooner we start tracking this data, the sooner we can start to adjust taxes for each person based on how much they actually use the system.
  8. Margare posted on 01/14/2014 05:07 AM
    I am a retired nurse who eventually became the head night supervisor and I worked in healthcare for a number of years. I was trained and educated by nursing sisters and worked for many years in the health care profession. In the old days, we did not have hospital ceo;s, vice presidents making hundreds of thousands dollars a year. These guys drain the system with providing little or no value. These positions were volunteers from the community and upstanding business people. If you want to cut health care costs, why does every hospital need ceos and vice presidents making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Stop blaming the patients and cut the bloated management structure and waste from the management areas!
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 09:04 AM
      @Margare ....all the more reason why we should have an idea of where the money goes. So when the contracts for VPs and CEOs are being drawn up, there will less of a tendency to hand them a wad of cash, for sitting in a big comfy leather chair.
  9. Gertie posted on 01/14/2014 02:59 PM
    It would be mind bending for people to realize what they are using to say the least; for the one that actually care that is.
    What I would like to see done is for the system to take on doctors who have 15 - 20 patients booked within the same 1 hour time frame, spend 30 seconds with each and bill OHIP for a 15 min consultation. I am sick of having to take a day off to sit in a specialists office and wait 2 hours past the time slot I was given, only to be fed in and out like cattle. Can you say "blatant corruption"????????
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