Mayoral Hopeful Vows to Squash Scarborough Subway

David Soknacki says LRTs are what Scarborough needs.

David Soknacki says he knows what the residents of Scarborough really need and it is not a subway.  Rolling out details of his campaign Tuesday, Socknacki vowed to bring back the Light Rail Transit plan if he is elected mayor.  However, Socknacki’s speech got off to a confusing start.

“A crucial part of the change Toronto needs is to make decisions based on evidence not on the facts.”said Soknacki at the opening of the conference which was held outside the Lawrence Rapid Transit station in Scarborough.

With Toronto city councilors Gloria Lindsay Luby and Paul Ainslie at his side, Soknacki said the Scarborough LRT plan would be more accessible, include more stops and would require no tax increase.

“Last October a slim majority on council, pressured by Mayor Ford, made a decision on transit in Scarborough that ran counter to Toronto’s tradition of sound decision making and gave into the politics of division and fear, plus ignored the facts.  In leading the decision, Mayor Ford went back on his campaign promise not to raise taxes and told the people of Toronto that he wants them to pay for his subway extension with a billion dollar tax increase starting at .5% in 2014 and rising to 1.6% in three years.”

The former Toronto city councilor even slammed TTC Chair and fellow mayoral candidate Karen Stintz for reversing her position on the LRT and supporting the subway in Scarborough. 

Socknacki says going back to the original LRT plan would mean faster and cheaper transit that would be ready to move passengers much sooner than a subway would. 

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  1. Angry Bill posted on 01/14/2014 11:59 AM
    I wanted to like this guy, but then he says stuff like Toronto's tradition of sound decision making. Is there someone running who isn't totally divorced from reality?

    I do agree, however, that the half-assed subway currently slotted for Scarborough isn't a good use of money. A downtown relief line should be the first priority, then a real Scarborough subway, not this half-assed one they're currently proposing.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 03:44 PM
      @Angry Bill I somewhat have to disagree with you there. And me disagreeing with you doesn't happen that

      *Ford ran on making sure that Scarborough was to get a subway- mainly because an upgrade in rail transit was so overdue. It was a miracle that he got the funding, but you have your Liberal Transportation Minister Glen Murray for first, making it half-assed, and secondly, trying to hog the glory for making the subway a reality for his party. Also, for right or for wrong, he's at least bent on fulfilling his promise. I can't say the same for any other politician, and that's one of the primary reason the man has my respect.
      *The DRL most likely would be in the works only if the PCs takeover the Liberals. So the only likelihood of that happening, is if the voter base in Toronto finally wake up and smell the Timmies, and vote out the defunct provincial Liberals.
      If the DRL doesn't come to fruition, the only people who are to blame are the people of Toronto who (AGAIN) voted in the Liberals
      *This guy I doubt is even considering subways anywhere. He wants LRTs because his mentor sent him back in the ring to continue his legacy. Maybe someone should direct him to what happened during the last ice-storm, and how well that went.
    2. tanjo posted on 01/14/2014 05:09 PM
      @Karl Burgin Actually Ford campaigned with Free Subways. Everywhere. Not just Scarborough.

      Keep in mind the current plan was proposed by the Liberal Transportation Minister, and Ford jumped all over it like a drowning man on a dinghy.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 06:48 PM
      @tanjo I cannot confirm our deny that because I simply don't remember if that was the case. I will look it up though. But I do know that Scarborough was at the forefront of that promise.
      As for who's subway plan it is, you have it reversed. It was more Ford's subway plan and Murray jumped all over it. Why? Because there was some election in Scarborough that the Liberals needed to secure.
      Think about it. Murray could have put that subway anywhere he wanted.
      And then there's the casino Ford wanted when he went before the province. Don't you think that if the casino was in the Liberal's best interest, that that wouldn't have gone through for also?

      Remember, Liberal's NEVER make a move without a reason- that serves themselves.
  2. Mark7 posted on 01/14/2014 12:13 PM
    Does this guy actually think he has a chance to win. Too funny!
    1. tanjo posted on 01/14/2014 05:04 PM
      @Mark7 I never thought Miller would beat Tory over the Airport Bridge, but there you go.

      If enough people are against the Scarborough Subway (e.g. the people that are not going to get transit upgrades because of it) and anti-Ford, then ... well ...

      Nawww .. still a long shot.
  3. Frankie posted on 01/14/2014 12:14 PM
    Not sure if he's right or wrong re LRT however, he was Budget Chief under Miller, so his comments about "sound decision making" certainly didn't reflect the period under Miller.

    Are his ideas of "sound decision making" -

    1. overpaying for subway cars because they wanted to support Bombardier?

    2. overpaying for labour by forcing private contractors to pay the same union wages as public sector?

    3. St. Clair right-of-way disaster?

    4. cancelling bridge to Island Airport at cancellation fee of $ 30-60 Million?

    5. dismantling synchronization of traffic lights?

    There must be dozens of other examples I've missed.

    He certainly got it right re Stintz however.

    I certainly can't vote for Miller's Budget Chief as we don't need more of that disaster, nor HIS "tradition of sound decision making" which is anything but sound.
    1. Joao posted on 01/14/2014 03:42 PM
      @Frankie why would you not vote for someone Frankie who as budget chief under Dave Miller saved this city more money in Miller's last term in office than the Ford admin (whatever is left of it) has done plus leave the city with over a 300 mil surplus? actually about 330 i think. just a fact which you can check if you like. plus we wouldn't get the blatant lies/hypocrisy/cheating, the side shows. the trials/cops/drugs/criminal activity/criminal associates all that good stuff? why Frankie?
    2. tanjo posted on 01/14/2014 05:14 PM
      @Joao At this point in the last election, Ford was just an amusing anecdote too.
  4. kl posted on 01/14/2014 12:17 PM
    He's right. Scarborough needs this LRT which will run along the current RT line and away from all traffic and for the other planned LRTs (in traffic) on Sheppard and Finch to become subways, especially since they can be dug for only $5M per km in staffing costs (as in the Eglinton Crosstown contract - online) and $50M/km for a completely lined tunnel.

    Another great thing about the Scarborough LRT from Kenndy to the Scar. Town Centreis that it can be built in one year by hiring five crews for one year instead of one crew for several years. Same cost, but spreads the opportunity around and builds our already provincially funded LRT fast!!!!.
    1. Walter posted on 01/14/2014 10:00 PM
      @kl You are correct (although your costs are misleadingly low).

      The Transit City plan was for LRT in the middle of Eglinton, Sheppard, and Finch, along with an underground portion through the old Toronto part of Eglinton and using the SRT corridor.

      The Current plan, is for LRT in the middle of Eglinton, Sheppard, and Finch, along with an underground portion through the old Toronto part of Eglinton and a short subway extension.

      The new plan has just as much roadway lost to LRT as the old plan. Only the already grade-separated SRT will be replaced with a costly underground B-D Subway extension.

      If they were smart, they would use the Scarborough money to build the SRT, extend it to Malvern, and connect it to an elevated LRT line on Eglinton (to Don Mills). This would create a continuous Transit line from Malvern to Mount Dennis. Then, cancel the Sheppard LRT and replace it with the Sheppard subway to Scarborough City Centre (SCC). This would be the same cost as the current plan but have two grade-separated ("subway") lines with greater reach.
      Then cancel the Finch LRT and build the Sheppard subway extension west to Downsview Station. Again the cost would be the same.

      We do not need a candidate who resurrects old failed plans, we need someone who can picture a true transit network for a reasonable cost.
  5. AC posted on 01/14/2014 12:45 PM
    i would definitely consider him or anyone else for my vote who will campaign on killing any thought of a Scarb subway. that fiasco is nothing but a political power play when we had a fully funded plan in place with NO NEW TAXES. Mr. (I'm watching every dime) Ford has no problem increasing our taxes PLUS all cancelation costs in the hundred millions strictly for politics nothing else. just for votes because FORD would be the last i mean the freakin LAST person i would trust with any kind of transit planning for this city.
    he had from day one absolutely no plan on how to pay or fund any kind of transit. just BS about others would pay for it. the private sector. How are we doing on that Mr. transit planner??
    his debacle on council floor when Josh Matlow make a complete fool out of Ford when they were having a discussion on LRT vs. subways.
    If Ford had any credibility he would of least educated himself on the pros and cons of both systems instead he shows up and makes himself a laughing stock. Ford doesn't know the difference between a donkey wagon and a LRT system.
    that should show us all his intelligence scope....
    1. dama posted on 01/14/2014 02:26 PM
      @AC This guy has nothing to say therefore he just said something stupid like turfing the subway and re-visit LRT..

      the Liberal candidate that just won the last bye- election was for LRT and Wynne threw her in that riding campaigning that she was the subway quuen as well as Karen Stintz.. initially a strong supporter of LRT but changed her freaking mind to subway,

      but but.. Rob Ford never stray from his 2010 subway campaign promise.. in my book.. speaks volume...

      This Soknacki guy has too much "wind".. so he is just "passing air".. no credibility at all..

      wasted vote..

      Ford More Years....
    2. Mark7 posted on 01/14/2014 02:50 PM
      @AC Keep up with your lies and rhetoric against Mr Ford like you always have. It won't matter though, as it is those very lies against him which have the majority wanting to vote for him. Ford More Years!
    3. AC posted on 01/14/2014 04:08 PM
      @Mark7 Ford More Years! :)
      Smirk..! you think Rob thought of it all by himself? I bet he got Doug to help with the spelling
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 04:30 PM
      @AC Hmmm... well, if you can't keep up with the play on words, then obviously the message wasn't meant for you.
      Maybe you should convene with your leftist posse, and see if you can figure it out.
  6. john posted on 01/14/2014 01:10 PM
    ford is going to squash this bitch just like he will with Karen Cu%%$##nts and chow chow . and won ton .
  7. Peter posted on 01/14/2014 02:25 PM
    David Soknacki obviously has not been paying too much attention to city politics. Even if he was elected mayor, which, I did not believe he has a snowballs chance of winning. He has only one vote and to reverse the subway plan this would need to be approved by all of council. David, perhaps it's time to fire your campaign manager and advisory staff.
    1. dama posted on 01/14/2014 02:35 PM
      @Peter He will not be the mayor so it is a moot point with HIS one vote in chamber....... ..

      He just want his name out there, so he came out saying something stupid and of no value and is that the ONLY platform he has ??

      With 8%, I think he knows the writing on the wall.. but give him credit for trying...
    2. AC posted on 01/14/2014 03:30 PM
      @Peter don't forget Ford is and was one vote also and the reality of politics is when the election is over and politicians aren't pandering for votes anymore as some are like Stintz currently. mindsets change, no elections looming and the reality of the financial fiasco that is Scarb subway plan will be on the table again.
      election cycles plus environmental studies and assessments which will still take years to do will all come in to play.
      Mike Harris put a stop to Eglinton line well into the cycle. Rob Ford will be a distance memory in short time and people will come to their senses eventually..
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 03:35 PM
      @AC ....I highly doubt that. But it doesn't hurt to dream.
    4. dama posted on 01/14/2014 07:03 PM
      @AC The Scarborough subway will be built and that will be Ron Ford's legacy and this is response to your : Rob Ford willl be a distance memory" even without the subway.. Rob Ford will be remembered for years to come..

      Who stop the gravu train at city hall?

      Rob Ford.. heh heh heh...

      Ford More Years...
  8. DW posted on 01/14/2014 03:24 PM
    Another Mayor McBoob presser..............hardly an FDR fireside chat

    Again he pats himself on the back about creating jobs in Toronto

    Only our Mayor will brag about an unemployment rate that is higher than the provincial average and higher than most major centres in Canada
  9. Karl Burgin posted on 01/14/2014 03:32 PM
    1.> I like the fact that he's using this as part of his platform to run on. He's digging his own grave on this issue- just hope he's using a big enough of a shovel
    2.> It doesn't make sense to cancel the subway now...
    *The provincial and the federal government has already dedicated funds to this already
    *We don't need to stop progress and debate (for the 100th) time again
    *Haven't we learned from the last ice storm that above-ground wires isn't best for Toronto's climate
    *We've all come to the conclusion that subways are better. The only debate is on funding, and which locations need it more urgently. Why are we then back-tracking to inferior method of public transit
    I can go and on- in the end, its reeeaaalllyyy not a smart move to continue your former mentor's agenda
    3.> I have a feeling that Miller is so perturbed by Ford, he probably hand-picked this guy to run
    4.> Do they (him and Miller) use the same hair gel for their carefully coiffed hair?
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