WATCH: Second Ford video surfaces

Appears to show alleged drug dealer Sandro Lisi sitting with the mayor

Hours after a first video showing Rob Ford stammering and swearing in a Jamaican accent, another video has surfaced.

This time, it shows the mayor sitting in a booth at the Steak Queen across from alleged drug dealer Sandro Lisi.

Lisi was picked up on drug trafficking and extortion charges.

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  1. LRB posted on 01/21/2014 08:22 PM
    And he's back. What is remarkable is that 44% of the people in the admittedly totally meaningless poll, say that they don't care because he's on his own time. But he swore he would not drink again. And his brother swore he would not drink again. Why, oh why, are these 44% so willing to have a lying alcoholic as a mayor?

    Ford is not embarrassing for the city -- he's a global joke, but that's all he is. What is embarrassing and what the rest of the world is laughing at, is the fact that the people of Toronto -- especially this 44% -- are so stupid, so weak, so unprincipled that they accept his grotesque behaviour. That's embarrassing!
    1. tanjo posted on 01/21/2014 10:24 PM
      @LRB My guess is that someone managed to hack the poll. No way there are 60% of the people that support this behaviour.

      ... unless part of that 60% "don't mind" because it makes it even less likely that he will get re-elected.
  2. Ken posted on 01/21/2014 08:50 PM
    44% still select Rob Ford over any of the other options? Why is this? It's because those 44% are sick and tired of lousy socialist leftist and spend happy governments. It's the 44% - the real working class, that have had it up to their eye balls with elitist, downtown socialists telling them how to vote, who to vote for and "don't worry, this won't hurt."
    Figure it out. He's the only one truly trying to protect the average Joe, real working stiff. All others may talk a good game but end up filling their special interest pockets and those of their friends on the backs of the average work stiff!
    If the elitists can't see that, then they need to get their heads out of each other's a$$!
    The biggest joke is not Rob Ford. It's the supposed informed Toronto media that are trying so hard to influence political outcomes that the average working stiffs have tuned them out.
    Real people. Real working stiffs want less government and want to keep more of their hard earned dollars!!!!
    Figure it out.
  3. donny p. posted on 01/22/2014 08:10 AM
    It now makes sense, after meeting Lisi he wasn't drunk, he was stoned on crack. Video displays all the classic crack smoking symptoms...aggression, muscular spasms, incoherent speech, stomping and yelling...he was filmed a few minutes after smoking up and would have crashed a few minutes later.

    He needs to resign, who cares if he gets help.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/22/2014 09:06 AM
      @donny p. I was going to be insulting, but thought better of it....

      All I will say is this- do you think it OK that videos taken like this without the person knowing, for the purposes of shaming? Because everyone seems to be missing the point. You have the obvious distracting spectacle being shown on the right, with no one paying attention to what's going on, on the left.
      Don't you see? OK, the mayor lied when he said he would never drink again. Fine. But with that, you are also giving license to the fact that this behavior of recording people so that it could be put online, or on the news, is now OK.
      We are being duped here, and either everyone fails to see it, or see where this may lead.
  4. Frankie posted on 01/22/2014 09:22 AM
    We should ask Ontario Liberals why Ford's support remains strong despite his continued personal failings. After all, they continue to vote Liberal despite 10 years of lying, "stealing" money for votes, ordering the OPP to stand down while someone almost gets beaten to death, and mismanage the province to the point of fiscal ruin.

    Please enlighten us!

    Perhaps it's because Ford supporters are sick and tired of civic politicians wasting our money to overpay unions, overpay for subway cars to support local unions, waste hundreds of millions to support their anti-car agenda, etc.

    In summary, Ford supporters are sick and tired of civic politicians saying "We don't give a damn that you work hard for your money, we're going to waste it as we please".

    It's a pretty simple message!
  5. Frankie posted on 01/22/2014 09:29 AM
    If you want to understand why Ford's support remains strong despite his personal failings just ask Ontario Liberal supporters.

    They've supported a party and its leader who continually lied, ordered the OPP to stand down while a citizen was almost beaten to death, "stole" in order to buy votes, created multiple scandals, and mismanaged this province to the point of fiscal disaster.

    I'm sure we'd all love to hear their explanations.

    Perhaps Ford maintains his support because taxpayers are sick and tired of civic politicians saying "We don't give a damn about you or the fact you work hard for your money, we're going to overpay unions, overpay for subway cars to support unions, waste money in support of our left-wing pet projects, etc."

    It's called respect for the taxpayer and, relative to the other candidates, Ford is the only one showing any respect.
    1. r2d2 posted on 01/22/2014 09:58 AM
      @Frankie I'm more interested in the rationale of his supporters, the mindset. is it just because it's politics and you have to be on one side or another?
      i'm not going to attack you it's meaningless. just more curious!
      Is it that you don't like the other side so much that the natural defensive comes up when anything involving Ford.
      I don't know if you have kids or not but i think if anyone of us with kids if my kids teacher was doing what Ford does the crack/alcohol/driving drunk/criminal associates. i or anyone and i'm assuming you would be down at the school demanding that teacher resign immediately or i pull my kids out for their safety.
      so what is it? just to be anti left on anything is that it. just really more curious and baffled Ford raises taxes he does everything that if it was someone on the left you would be up in arms
  6. Jim posted on 01/22/2014 11:21 AM
    Wonder if releasing this video is a criminal act under the PC's new legislation to stop Cyber-Bullying?
    1. REALITY BITES posted on 01/22/2014 11:28 AM
      @Jim Is it possible to bully a bully?
  7. jsutsaying posted on 01/22/2014 12:44 PM
    Karl - grow up, grow a conscience, grow a sense of decency, and keep out of Toronto. It is clear you have no common sense. Anyone who would support this mayor, needs some serious help.

    You are acting delusional, deflective and can't see the giant monolith in front of your face. He's a drunk and an addict. Not suitable for the position of mayor.

    To defend him is to cry against truth.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/22/2014 12:56 PM
      @jsutsaying And with that comment, you have just proven my point....
      Why am I such a threat to you- I already cannot vote. So what, you are going to limit my rights to free speech too. Of which I'm not being abrasive. I am only exploring the aspects that no one else seems to want to bother with.

      You think he's an addict. I think he's not- nor do I see any evidence of the fact. What I did in the past was examples of bad judgment. And then of late, individuals taking videos of him in vulnerable moments (which shouldn't have been trotted out)- first in someone's home, and then this...

      How much are you willing to sacrifice to bring this man down JUSTSAYING? Is it really worth setting such a precedent....
  8. john posted on 01/22/2014 01:47 PM
    who cares ? thay just said thay whant to raise the property tax . something rod ford said he would not do . these people who run for the mayors char just shot themselves ass . as always .
  9. justsaying posted on 01/22/2014 01:47 PM
    Karl: Sorry that I direct these statements at you as they are intended for anyone who thinks this Mayor is good for our city and has done nothing to warrant his removal from office,
    The fact is: this mayor is a drunk, and a liar. Why do you find that acceptable?. He is your beacon, whereas others see him as a RED LIGHT = Stop this train, I want off.

    If movie stars are held accountable for their bad behaviors caught on camera, then why not the person who holds the Highest position (literally and figuratively) in the city?

    Did you know that during the last election Ford Nation showed up at Smitherman's campaign stops and called him a drug addict because he admitted to using party drugs in the 80's. He was called out and shouted down by Ford Nation - yet Ford Nation tolerates, no defends Mayor Ford who admits to seeking, buying, using and denying using CRACK while in office and hanging out with the people who are the deadliest drug dealers in the city. Something stinks. I think something is way past prime here...and it is way beyond your idea of justice, fair play and common sense.

    When I saw him handing out the bobble heads, I knew why he resonates so well. Trouble is, he's an addict and is unfit to run the city.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/22/2014 02:01 PM
      @justsaying 1.>I never said I condone the mayor's prior drug use. I've repeated this so many times, I've lost count.
      But I also do not condone the under-handed "gotcha" moments, that we're now forced to confront.
      I do condone someone who has publicly apologized numerously, and is making an effort to make amends for himself.

      2.>What's the point of apologizing when all you do is drudge up what he apologized for. Is there any evidence he's done crack recently? Is there any youtube video that shows he did crack recently? So why do we keep reverting back to that?

      3.>You still fail to acknowledge the double-standard that I keep bringing up. The Liberals were in for 10 years, they butchered everything every which way, but is it because Ford came on the scene, that you've become morally sensitive?
      Ok, let's leave the provincial stuff out of the argument- and focus on Miller's performance. He has initiated TTC screw-ups that have cost millions- yet he was rewarded with two terms?
      You had two councillors (under Ford's administration) CHARGED with drunk driving- are we vying for their heads to be on a platter too? We've all seem to have forgotten about them...

      As long as these double-standard exists, and no one wants to address it, for better or for worse (depending on which side of the fence you stand), there will always be a Ford nation.
      And until you realize that fact, you will banging your head against the wall until it bleeds, trying to figure out why his approval is so high.
  10. justsaying posted on 01/22/2014 02:19 PM
    I guess the only thing that will show you will be an election poll. When he gets handed defeat by Mayor Chow.... Then we will all watch as your head, and the heads of all of those in Ford Notion....explode.

    It is going to happen. It will be an amazing moment.

    Then, tolls can be set up around this city, just like London and New York - so those who contribute nothing to the city can pay for the damage they inflict on our roads...daily. Those with a 416 license plate will be exempt. After all, it is our city, and you are welcome to pay to play in it. Otherwise, please stay in Mississauga. We don't need you here. You see it is OUR city, not your's. If you do not like it...tough....we don't care. I doubt one business in TO will fold because 905'ers are too cheap to pay a loonie for their vehicle to enter the city> They'll they should have all along>>>> No more free ride for 905. Delivery trucks delivering goods to/for the GTA would have an exemption. Trucks using GTA roads to bypass the 401 will pay a toll. Simple.
    1. dama posted on 01/22/2014 03:09 PM
      @justsaying Rob and Doug , themselves do not buy the 'results' of those polls, prove to you that they are not stupid to believe those 44 or 47% pools.

      The only pol they stated they do believe is on Oct 27 and Rob Ford being 1st to register is telling all the other candidates that he is ready to challenge any of them.. so where are they ??? Olivia and John register and let the campaign began.. or are they too afraid to lose then where do they "hang" their face? especially John Tory who has won NOTHING so far...

      Bring it on.. is what Rob Ford is saying....all these video here and there is just putting a circus in city hall .. nothing to really hurt Rob Ford.....

      Oct 27.. Ford More Years....
  11. Angry Bill posted on 01/22/2014 04:28 PM
    All of you Ford bashers are really missing the boat, here. You just don't understand.. it doesn't matter what he smokes or drinks, or what he lies about.

    You see, there's a critical point in public life. A point at which you tip the scales in your favour, when you stop being "just a politician", or "just a whatever..." and become a celebrity. Look at Bill Clinton. Reprehensible behaviour to exhibit in the Oval Office. Yet, he gets a pass, because he achieved celebrity status. The main thing propelling Ford into celebrity status is the late night talk show hosts. With that sort of exposure, every American knows him and can comment on him. If he were to resign, pack up and move to Beverly Hills right now, he would have no problems finding work. He's like John Candy and Chris Farley rolled into one. Genius.

    So... That's the other consideration you folks need to keep in mind during the next election, assuming Ford does last long enough to run. You're going to have to contend with the celebrity factor. Toronto is full of very boring people, so it's actually quite possible there'll be a socialist at the helm this fall. You never know. Like I said earlier, it's a crap shoot.

    But putting another socialist at the helm in Toronto would have the same effect on Toronto's economy as putting sugar in your gas tank. Your car would sputter and die.
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