US customs should turn away Ford: Lawyer

Immigration lawyer tells Jerry Agar letting in admitted drug user could set precedent

Rob Ford is a late night punch line, part of a Jeopardy question, and might end up setting a precedent for US Customs and Immigration, at least in the view of one immigration lawyer.

Immigration lawyer Joel Guberman told Jerry Agar on Newstalk 1010 Friday that letting the Mayor of Toronto into the United States might create a problem.

Even if you are not convicted of a drug offense, admitting to illegal drug use is enough for a border agent to deny entry to the US.

Because Ford's crack admission (and to a lesser extent the revelation that he has smoked "a lot of" weed) made headlines around the world, it is widely known that Ford has used illegal drugs. His admission could cause him to be turned away at the border if he tries to cross it.

The Ford family owns property in the US and Ford has taken business trips to Chicago and Austin during his mayoralty.

Guberman says unless US officials want to set a precedent, they should turn Ford away if he attempts to enter the US.

"Because if they don't, than my little clients who want to cross and have had possession of weed 25 years ago are going to (ask) 'why does Ford get better treatment than me?'"

Some border agents have asked about drug use and Guberman believes Ford's very public admission is enough to keep him on this side of the border.

"Mr. Ford is on the front page of every paper in North America admitting that he smoked crack cocaine," Guberman told Jerry Agar on Newstalk 1010 Friday morning.

"Seems like a pretty strong admission to me. If you stand up on a platform and say, 'listen I did this,' US immigration is going to say, 'you did this.'"

The issue first came up before the New Year when Ford expressed interest in attending the NHL Winter Classic in Michigan. Ford instead hosted his annual New Year's Levee.

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  1. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 02:22 PM
    Let's hope our American friends have the balls to keep this Canadian White Trash out of their country...thank god they take their laws seriously.

    Looks like Robby won't be visiting the family Florida condo any time soon.
    1. don was right posted on 02/05/2014 03:01 PM
      @donny p. a bit racist dont you think?
  2. Frankie posted on 01/24/2014 02:25 PM
    Obama admitted to smoking weed and I believe doing cocaine as well. Maybe next time he leaves the US they shouldn't let him back in.

    Haven't noticed any talk show hosts mimicking Obama doing either of those drugs.
    1. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 02:30 PM
      @Frankie Very different when it's your own citizen...unfortunately Canada would have to let Robby the scumbag back in if he ever gets out. case you haven't noticed, Obama hasn't been ranting in drunken stupors and admitting to smoking crack...look what they did to Marion Barry if you want a good comparison. Canada has stopped laughing at Robby, not a good thing.
    2. dama posted on 01/24/2014 02:40 PM
      @donny p. Wrong !!! Light hearted Canadian is laughing with Rob Ford.. he is a natural comic.. soon he will be performing his dance and comedy routine on some Late Night shows and at Fallsview Casino..
    3. Frankie posted on 01/24/2014 03:05 PM
      @donny p. Same could happen with Justin Trudeau, Kathleen Wynne (I believe) and any other politicians admitting to weed.
    4. T&A posted on 01/24/2014 03:15 PM
      @Frankie Justin is cool and groovy.
      Rob is uncool and ungroovy.
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 03:38 PM
      @T&A Yeah... I'm sure that being cool vs. uncool is one of the requirements for entering the U.S.
    6. Big Daddy posted on 01/24/2014 03:48 PM
      @Frankie Try and come up with a relevant comparison Frankie. Obama's admission was 20+ years ago, not while he held office.
    7. john posted on 01/25/2014 11:22 AM
      @donny p. ford is no scum bag . u wanna see a scumbag look at Kathleen Wynne she the queen of scumbags . in my town our mayor is the princess .
    8. Steve posted on 01/25/2014 01:34 PM
      @john John, your response here is indicative to the nut jobs who still support Ford. You and your ilk say a lot about your ethics and morals.
    9. Mark7 posted on 01/25/2014 03:56 PM
      @Frankie Bang on the point! Americans, like lefties are always the biggest hypocrites.
    10. Mark7 posted on 01/25/2014 03:58 PM
      @donny p. The real scumbag is you. Your rants at Karl Burgin for days proved that.

      Foed More Years are coming. Deal with it.
    11. Mark7 posted on 01/25/2014 04:00 PM
      @T&A OH BROTHER! Justin is a little punk child. We don't what the status quo of "cool and groovy" (60's lingo?). We want Rob Ford who does not squander our tax dollars.

      Ford more years. Deal with it!
    12. donny p. posted on 01/25/2014 04:25 PM
      @Mark7 Justin is about the age of the boys Robby liked to coach in the football team locker room, especially when they showered. Almost the age of the 14 year old boys he said he picked up in the park and took home to sleep on his couch.
    13. Peter posted on 01/25/2014 07:46 PM
      @donny p. Good point, a lot of peope are beginning to realize that Rob Ford is a homosexual explains his depression, substance abuse, and perverted sexual activity.
  3. dama posted on 01/24/2014 02:37 PM
    Hmm I wonder if the US will depot Justin Bieber ? his crime is larger than Rob Ford.. and I wonder what this immigration lawyer is talking about
    - 15 minutes of fame??

    Rolling Stone Keith Richard, Mick Jagge convicted of doing cocaine
    and yet they are allow to stay in USA..

    Hello !!!!!
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 02:59 PM
      @dama Donny P. is a bitter old crow. Desperate to hang on to any news condemns Rob Ford of anything. Since he cannot comprehend the fact of Rob Ford's ever-rising popularity.
      Ford already had smoked weed while in the States before he became mayor. And he's been back and forth between the U.S. and Canada multiple times. So you mean to tell me, that the U.S. authorities already knew about the weed use while he was in the States, he's already visited a number of times, but now they will deny him because he made a public admission, but the police can't charge him? Except for Donny P. (and Mr. Reality, who I know will be here any moment), does that string of logic make sense to anybody?
      Justin Trudeau also admitted to weed in the media- and is trying to decriminalize it. Kathleen Wynne has also admitted to weed use as well. Are you hoping that the U.S. bar them too, Mr. Joel G.?
      Didn't think so.....therefore immigration lawyer Joel G. should really keep a low (very low) profile- before he hurts himself, and his reputation.
    2. Frankie posted on 01/24/2014 03:24 PM
      @Karl Burgin Wonder if Joel G. is a buddy of Clay Ruby?
    3. T&A posted on 01/24/2014 03:28 PM
      @Karl Burgin ever rising popularity? :)
      mommy mommy there he is. is that the big fat man on tv who does crack on the videos and speaks Jamaican and can't do math and lies and cheats and drives drunk and eats kittens and people make jokes about him on tv. please mommy can i can i get my picture with the funny man?
    4. REALITY BITES posted on 01/24/2014 03:30 PM
      @Karl Burgin THE BAD NEWS: Desperate ... Delusional ... Deflecting ...
      The 3-D "wisdom" of Karl, the twenty-something computer tech boy.

      THE GOOD NEWS: You will never have to worry about keeping a low profile - as you suggest for Joel Guberman - your lack of a meaningful profile is so submerged as to be non-existent.

      Your mom is calling - your mac and cheese is ready !
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 03:32 PM
      @REALITY BITES That didn't take comes Mr. Grinch.
    6. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 03:37 PM
      @T&A 1.> Look at the polls- you still have candidates wishing they had Rob Ford's numbers
      2.> Listen to the phone calls when people call in. There is still a majority that is happy, and defending Rob Ford. While, they sometimes cannot properly enunciate why Ford should be mayor- if the host isn't being difficult, usually the message comes across.

      So yeah....every rising popularity indeed.
    7. Big Daddy posted on 01/24/2014 04:05 PM
      @Karl Burgin Karl - you sound like a somewhat sensible person (unlike the rest of Ford Nation) so I can't understand your unwavering support for Rob Ford...what is it going to take for you to come to the same realization as so many other level headed people that this man is a total buffoon, not worthy of it when he gets drunk behind the wheel again and inflicts some real damage??
    8. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 04:16 PM
      @Big Daddy Karl has become Robby's Apologist-in-Chief and enabler. As an outsider he is clueless of the buffoon's impact on the residents of Toronto and comes out with incredibly tupid and uniformed opinions. He's the type that would have supported Stalin and Hitler because thy made the trains run on time, ignoring who the passengers on those trains were and where they were going. Karl would have said that they were going to a summer camp with free showers. Gulag was a vacation spot if Robby said it was.

      Karl doesn't belong here, Toronto residents need to burn a cross on his lawn.
    9. Frankie posted on 01/24/2014 04:54 PM
      @donny p. I've read many of Karl's posts and find your comments about supporting Hitler and Stalin odious and repulsive. I've also supported Ford so I suppose you should accuse me of the same thing.

      Vermin like you throw examples like this around without the slightest idea of what those monsters represented.

      Try educating yourself of the horrors these mass murderers were responsible for.

      I find your comments repulsive and will never bother commenting on anything you ever post again.
    10. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 05:04 PM
      @Frankie As I recently posted, both my parents are holocaust survivors and I don't need righteous assholes like you telling me I'm clueless. My point is that after the collapse of the USSR there was a huge movement to bring back Stalinist policies so that Russia could become a world power again, Putin solved that problem. Same with Hitler, my parents had to overcome huge NAZI resurgence and support after the war, being Jewish, they had a huge problem getting from Palestine to England through Italy and Germany.

      I tank you for not commenting on my posts, assholes like you are stupid and ignorant and have no idea what they're saying. Karl is exactly like those Stalin supporters, ignoring the bad stuff that Robby is doing and blindly supporting him on ideological grounds. You are truly stupid in your self righteous ignorance.
    11. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 05:13 PM
      @Big Daddy 1.> The near fetish-crazed obsession of a media coverage on Rob Ford has got to stop. I've already said, if this were of any other politician, I would have a huge problem with it too. Also, the "gotcha" moments are unseemly. And when you put these in the media and on the internet, and Toronto becomes a laughing-stock because of it, ultimately blaming Ford is wrong.
      Even before the drug allegations, he was hounded relentlessly- by the media trying to find a chink in the armor. No one should be subject to such public scrutiny.

      2.> He is making an effort to change. If he didn't care, he wouldn't be making an effort. I've already said, I was not OK with the crack use- and was very disheartened when he mentioned that he smoked crack. But I do believe him when he says he's not addicted to either booze or drugs.
      I do think that Ford is sometimes guilty of bad judgement however. But that alone is not an excuse to publicly lynch the man.

      3.> There are buffoons who are not on drugs, or are drunkards, who are a lot more irresponsible and borderline criminal in their activities- and in their responsibility of the public purse. I hate to use this argument- but its also the most glaring. And this is the $1 billion alone wasted on power-plants. You want to talk about disheartening. You have a party that has demonstrated insane actions that has already set the province of Ontario back. And if they get re-elected, it is already evident that isn't about to change anytime soon. And yet, as sad as I am to admit, it seems like the Liberals may be popular enough to get re-elected. By all rights, there should have been a riot of Queens Park. And there was planning in the works to do just that. But what do we have instead? A mob outside City Hall back in November crying for the mayor to leave- which is undemocratically may I add.
      I can keep on going (much to the displeasure of my loyal 'fans') but it boils down to this:
      The hatred of Rob Ford by others, is to the point that they are willing to do any and everything, by any means necessary to get rid of the man, and see him suffer. Whether it be bypassing the democratic process, hounding him to no end, or publicizing him knowing its going to cause a circus
    12. REALITY BITES posted on 01/24/2014 07:27 PM
      @Karl Burgin ***** ----- *****

      Quite a feat, Karl.

      A 400 word rant without a single new or relevant thought in the entire thing.

      You truly are a legend in your own mind.

      Stick to swapping computer parts. It will be a lot easier on you in the long run.
    13. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 08:15 PM
      @Karl Burgin Try looking at your problems without attacking the messenger. On belhalf of all Toronto residents, STFU and get your ass out of here.
    14. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 08:35 PM
      @REALITY BITES Please. Stop with the compliments. It's a hard feat to achieve but you're making yourself sound dumber that you already are.
    15. Karl Burgin posted on 01/24/2014 09:03 PM
      @donny p. "Karl doesn't belong here, Toronto residents need to burn a cross on his lawn."
      Burn a cross on my lawn huh?
      You should know better, as you claim because you are of Jewish heritage. But instead, you just outed yourself as a pathetic low-life racist, that deserves that someone hunt you down. If I knew where you lived I would beat you down myself- I don't need no weapon to take you out. And to the two people who actually "liked" his post, are just as disgusting as Donny.
      You racist piece of $#!+. You and your hatred of Rob Ford, and all who defend him, you just took a debate way beyond what it was supposed to be.
      You deserve to burn. I actually respect Jewish people, so I'm not going to throw any racial slurs. But to you as an individual, you have lost all credibility whatsoever. Piece of garbage! Go home, and don't come out!
    16. donny p. posted on 01/25/2014 07:33 AM
      @Karl Burgin Burn baby, burn! You truly are an ignorant piece of The Sun this morning...your hero is destroying my city. Just get lost, maybe never come back, supporting a monster that's doing me real harm is just stupid.

      Do your homework, then get your sory ass out of here until you grow up.
    17. john posted on 01/25/2014 11:27 AM
      @T&A hay leave ELF out of it .
  4. kenfromcanada posted on 01/24/2014 05:58 PM
    donny p. posted on 01/19/2014 01:38 PM
    @Frankie It's you that's up on your history. Israel is a pure NAZI state, exceeding NAZI learned it's lessons well, like the Taoists say "you eventually become what you hate".

    He's right about Harper as well...Canadians know that Harper is only going here Bush has already been. Israel is nothing but a racist would open concentration camps for the Arabs...oh wait, they call them Gaza and The West Bank down there.

    1. contiki posted on 01/24/2014 06:24 PM
      @kenfromcanada Am I missing something? What the heck does this have to do with the topic of the news item?
    2. kenfromcanada posted on 01/24/2014 06:32 PM
      @contiki Not too much. Just that some here think they can post all over with no one pointing out their duplicity.
    3. remo posted on 01/24/2014 06:46 PM
      @contiki Ken you missed nothing.some morons rant daily with n o idea of what they speak
    4. donny p. posted on 01/24/2014 08:10 PM
      @kenfromcanada All Jews hate the country thatIsrael has become, sadly, we can`t speak aboutit in public. Being Jewish is a race and a religion and we`d be ostracized if we let people know how we really felt. Thos that have spoken out have seen their lives destroyed.
    5. kenfromcanada posted on 01/25/2014 09:55 AM
      @donny p. donny p

      And now you speak for 'ALL JEWS'?
      lololol - A little full of yourself, aren't you donny?
    6. Mark7 posted on 01/25/2014 04:03 PM
      @kenfromcanada We all shake our heads in utter amazement and confusion whenever donny puts his fingers to the keyboard, and both feet in his mouth.
    7. Mark7 posted on 01/25/2014 04:05 PM
      @donny p. Doofus, you have hit a new low. The lies spewing from your mouth are that of a propaganda loving Nazi. F-off!
    8. donny p. posted on 01/25/2014 08:05 PM
      @kenfromcanada One year my parents didn`t buy Israeli Bonds...their customers cancelled their orders, they couldn`t buy tickets for the High Holidays and other temple events, they were shunned from temple and social activities, they almost went bankrupt...the next year they bought the bonds. This is Jewish life, those that speak of it are doomed.
    9. kenfromcanada posted on 01/25/2014 10:15 PM
      @donny p. Joseph Goebbels wrote the book on what you in your feeble posts are trying to do. Disinformation and lie.The bigger the better, and tell it often enough - then it starts to be believed.
      donny p. you are a good little anti-semite.
    10. donny p. posted on 01/26/2014 07:58 AM
      @kenfromcanada Why drag in Joseph Goebbels? Doug Ford has The Big Lie down pat. Anti Semite?...I like Jews and Arabs, hate Israel, though. You should look at the Ford Nation racists, especially Robby's comments on all those tapes, apparently he hates those "brown" people, does a great Jamaican dance, though...
    11. Karl Burgin posted on 01/27/2014 01:52 PM
      @kenfromcanada Donny P. is a stinking little racist on the whole...

      If I were you, I wouldn't him take him on at all- let alone seriously. He deserves to take a dump in the toilet, and then stick his face in there to fish out his excrement.
  5. john posted on 01/25/2014 11:12 AM
    he admitted he did . not charged so i dont see a reason why he would be turned back as long as he dont call the president a asshole . he should be okey . just dont do what justin beaver did . that was stupid .
    1. donny p. posted on 01/26/2014 08:05 AM
      @john Bieber should be OK, but if he gets convicted of felony vandalism for the throwing those eggs in California, the Americans won't renew his work visa. He won't be able to make more millions or live in his house down there. Robby is a convicted American felon who admits to drug use and creating his own crime wave...Americans don't support that kind of activity and will prevent him from crossing their border.
    2. tanjo posted on 01/27/2014 09:50 AM
      @john I don't know. With the previous convictions, denials followed by admissions of drug use, and the strategically sound decision of going on U.S. radio to advocate the legalization of pot, I think he could have a problem.

      The Beiber / Jagger / Richards comparison is not really relevant. They all generate a lot more money for American promoters, venues, merchandisers, etc. than Rob Ford does.

      Either way, I am pretty sure you can get Immigration clearance (or denial) ahead of time through a lawyer. It is highly unlikely we will see him get detained at the border unless he does something really stupid.
  6. DW posted on 01/26/2014 10:27 AM
    Notice Mayor McBoob has not been out of the country since his world tour to that world capital of Austin, Texas. Councillor Doug however managed to give Toronto a break a blow the city for six days last month.

    Maybe our Man in Etobicoke is afraid of being embarrassed by American Homeland Security at Pearson. Maybe someone can stuff in a trunk of a car and run him across at Sarnia.
  7. don was right posted on 02/05/2014 03:04 PM
    Under that style of thinking, tehy wont allow Justin Trudeau in either. Nor will they allow Wynne into Russia.
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