Council approves 2.23% property tax hike

Mayor Rob Ford was pushing for a 1.75 per cent increase and says the "gravy train is back at city hall"

Toronto council have approved deputy mayor Norm Kelly's proposed property tax hike for 2014.

Councillors voted 32 to 13 in favour of increasing the tax by 2.23 per cent. It includes 0.5 per cent for the Scarborough subway extention.

"Toronto City Council has endorsed an affordable and fiscally responsible rate increase this evening," Kelly said in a statement released after the vote.

Mayor Rob Ford disagrees.

"Probably the worst day since I've been mayor down here at city hall," Ford told reporters.

Ford was pushing for a 1.75 per cent increase.

"The gravy train is back at city hall," the mayor said.

The council meeting will resume on Thursday as the debate on the 2014 budget continues.



UPDATE: City budget showdown begins with shouting match

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  1. tanjo posted on 01/29/2014 10:41 PM
    Come to think of it, at the beginning of the year they started at 1.75%. They tacked on .5% for the subway, bringing it up to 2.25%. So the 2.23% increase actually shaved bit of cost from the budget. Woo hoo! An extra Tims for me!

    Too bad Ford couldn't come up with anything better than "Find someone to give us 20 million!"
    1. CoffeeCon posted on 01/30/2014 09:31 AM
      @tanjo I guess you didn't see the list. Anyway, are the clowns still building the 1.2 million dollar bathroom in the parking garage?
    2. HP posted on 01/30/2014 09:39 AM
      @tanjo Ford's plan was nothing more than to budget for the city to buy 1000 LotoMax tickets every week...having it shot down just gives him a reelection platform to blame council for increasing taxes. Toronto needs a >5% tax increase, it's become a dirty, unsafe city and needs to return to it's glory days as a model for all of North America. It's starting to look like Detroit.
    3. Frankie posted on 01/30/2014 10:07 AM
      @HP Are you serious about a 5% tax increase? We already have a city wasting hundreds of millions and you want to give them more to waste?

      What we need is someone to go after waste. Too many middle managers, too many employees working at 50% (or less) of their private sector equivalents, and too much money wasted on left-wing pet projects (eg. st. clair streetcar, ordering Bombardier cars when other suppliers cheaper, etc.)

      While we're at it, reduce the number of councillors to one per riding, and get the councillors away from the TTC and have professionals decide what's needed re subway.

      Windsor had no problem maintaining a 0% budget increase despite the disaster that hit the auto sector in 2008. It's all about responsible governance.
    4. HP posted on 01/30/2014 10:21 AM
      @Frankie Show me the waste...council has been looking for it for years, even Rob Ford comes up empty. You order Bombardier cars because it creates Canadian jobs, not that many middle managers any more, civil servants, by definition, are unmotivated as they're not P?L centres, pet projects like the current subway proposal are money burners, but apparently the people want it and voted for it. Windsor keeps their taxes low because they're an economic wasteland and were overtaxed in the first place. Their recent garbage strike made them focus on the essentials, plus they have their casino which generates millions in extra revenue and jobs.

      Toronto is sinking into a septic wasteland because it has no money, 80% of it's budget is for the police and the TTC, there is no waste, and it's the politicians with no proactive plans like Rob Ford that are destroying my city...we used to be proud of Toronto, now it's a stinking mess. Once the new condo development stops and property levies dry up, we may be looking at bankruptcy. Politicians like Ford come up with cute phrases like "gravy train" but have no ideas how to improve or even maintain our quality of life here. He's no better than those corporate vulture funds that slash and cut but eventually destroy the company.
    5. TC posted on 01/30/2014 10:38 AM
      @Frankie let me guess the employees you want to shelf aren't part of your family? correct?
      Ever notice the right wing wackjobs never want things to effect themselves or their families. right wing 101 ideology (cut the services and reduce the people in those services i don't use and keep the services i do use and don't charge me more for them)
      maybe some out there who know you think you work at 50% and mail it in half the time. just maybe.
      by the way professionals did say a Scarb subway is not warranted. all of them! downtown relief line is no.1 priority
    6. Karl Burgin posted on 01/30/2014 11:16 AM
      @HP No...i think you mean the province is beginning to look like Detroit- since everything we pay to the government, they're giving it away in bad contracts, or discounts in energy to other regions.
    7. Frankie posted on 01/30/2014 11:31 AM
      @HP Few examples -

      TTC maintenance dept. I know someone threatened after day 1 for working too efficiently, making them look bad.

      5 days for parks crew to work on a tiny patch of flowers anyone could do in 1 hour

      loads of middle managers (let's compare to private sector)

      more staff since amalgamation than before; amalgamation is supposed to eliminate duplication

      double the number of councillors needed

      This only scratches the surface. I rest my case.
    8. Frankie posted on 01/30/2014 11:39 AM
      @TC I have no problem with public employees working efficiently and effectively, whatever level they may be at (including middle, senior managers).

      I have no problem paying taxes to support government and people that need help.

      I have a problem when government feels entitled to waste billions of tax dollars because they couldn't care less about taxpayers working hard to earn money and pay taxes.

      If you consider that philosophy a "right-wing whackjob" that says a lot about the sickness affecting our society.
    9. dama posted on 01/30/2014 03:16 PM
      @Frankie and isnt that what Rob Ford is trying to do? NOT wasting taxpayer's money !!!

      Rob Ford with his personal issues has no scandal on taxpayer's money unlike the Federal Senate scandal,, Ontarion Liberal wastage of billions of dollars and still trying to find revenue tools to dig into our pockets...

      In running a household .if you dont have the money, would you still go out and spend? many that did, end up broke but city councillors HAVE you and I to tax so that they can spend
      even on their expense account using OUR dollar..

      Rob Ford spent his OWN money.. which mayor des that ?
      not Susan Fenell.. she flew FIRST CLASS to Ottawa.. .
  2. john posted on 01/30/2014 11:37 AM
    heres how it gos in my town

    we got 2 wards

    ward 1 where i live we used to pay ward 2 taxes for a very long time now . thx to the pov. government the taxes in ward 2 are going up 47% and ward 1 is going down 7% . our mayor is the female version of David miller .

    this is what u get for letting the council strip the mayor of his powers .
    the only thing u can do now is make a list of the people who voted in favour of this stupid ideal and kick them out in the next election . my town is heading into the chapter 11 club like Detroit is now . hopefuly u guys dont follow .
  3. GaryG posted on 01/30/2014 12:40 PM
    Dave Agar's commentary was spot on this morning. Ford is running his mouth off and recycling lies. Fords changes would save $1.00 a month. ONE dollar.
    Dave asked if Ford's eyes were blue or brown--he went with brown because he is full of the brown stuff.
    1. john posted on 01/30/2014 01:05 PM
      @GaryG i wonder if dave agar knows the saying it takes on to know one . yea i am saying Dave is full of shit . bite me dave .
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 01/30/2014 04:00 PM
      @GaryG FINALLY!!! I was waiting for someone to bring that point up.
      Ok GaryG, let's say we agree for the moment, and Ford is being over-exaggerating. And that's the tax hike only amount to $56.00 a year.
      Well, let me ask you this:
      How is that any different from Mr. Chairelli, comparing the rise in energy cost on our bill, to a cup of Tim Horton's coffee- of which everyone was outraged?

      The fact of the matter is, you have $2.00 increase here, $56.00 increase there, and other fees coming from all sides. The problem is that it all adds up- until it gets to the point where people will be wondering where did their paycheck go.
      Ford is making the effort to keep the taxes down, and keep services running and stable. It is the effort that counts. And when you have the city budget chief saying that after this year, there will be no more savings, that's got to make you wonder.

      Sure Ford may exaggerate sometimes. But his exaggerations are never really that far from the truth- concerning mayoral responsibilities/duties/ideas (I know some will interject with stuff from his personal life here).
      Are you willing to ignore Ford's over-exaggerated warnings, only to see it come to fruition- when it's already too late.
    3. GaryG posted on 01/30/2014 09:12 PM
      @john At least it is getting easier and easier to completely ignore those that support that enable the drunken lying antics of a bully and his dysfunctional family. And most are. Thanks for laugh.
    4. GaryG posted on 01/30/2014 09:20 PM
      @Karl Burgin Again I can dismiss those that will support a community leader that in any shape or form for a a dollar or 2 that will make absolutely no difference in the long run.
      There is no effort involved what so ever when Ford is nothing more than a lame duck as well as an embarrassment to the city as a whole. I can only pray that no one is killed the next time he is out at the steak practising his 2nd language and hops behind the wheel. But Ya I know, you would say that's fine, he saved me a $1.00 a month.
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 01/30/2014 10:46 PM
      @GaryG 1.) or you could be forgetting the blanket unnecessary media coverage before the booze and drug use. It's probably those very things that drove him to it...but let's completely ignore that premise

      2.) you are beginning to sound like the left wing pamphlets you've been reading instead of sticking to his performance and outcome at the budget. It cannot always be, that when you have nothing else left to fault the mayor on concerning his performance in office, that you default to his failings in his personal life.
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