WATCH: Hudak ditches right-to-work

Says most people don't want plan

Ontario PC leader Tim Hudak announced Friday morning he's abandoning one of his most controversial plans ahead of an expected spring election.

At a speech to the Toronto Region Board of Trade, Hudak says if elected, he would not move ahead with right-to-work legislation. Hudak's plan would have allowed employees to opt out of paying union dues.

Hudak's support for the plan has been criticized by some for months.

The PC leader told the crowd that while some people are in favour, most are not.

“If we are elected we are not going to do it,” Hudak said.

Both the Liberals and the NDP don't believe the issue is completely off the table, underlining that it's very likely that, if elected, Hudak would start up a right-to-work conversation again.

The head of one of Canada's largest unions also doesn't believe Hudak will stay true to his word about keeping right-to-work legislation off the table.

Unifor President Jerry Dias says the Progressive Conservative leader is dishonest.

Dias reveals Friday morning's announcement doesn't surprise him.

He believes the only reason why Hudak is not making this a priority is because the issue divided his party and he needed support. It also pushed away a major part of Hudak's base - businesses.

He says union members are nervous because they believe this announcement is an election ploy.

Dias calls Hudak a right-wing extremist who is turning people off with his policies.

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  1. Sam posted on 02/21/2014 09:26 AM
    This guy is not fit to be Premier!

    This will be the second election where he flip-flopped on his principles.

    Cue the "hidden agenda" ads.

    He will lose the election badly - AGAIN! LOL
    1. Frankie posted on 02/21/2014 09:49 AM
      @Sam Liberal principles are to "steal", lie, mismanage and ruin our province, yet idiots still vote for them.

      Timing is important so I don't have an issue with his shelving this idea for now.
    2. AC posted on 02/21/2014 12:17 PM
      @Sam Hudak might look like a dope (which i do think he is) but he's not totally stupid.
      Let's say he was to win the next election whenever that would be. He knows he's not in a majority position not even close. Even if he was to win a minority election he would never ever stand a gods chance of getting this past the other party's. It was probably driven into his head dude if you go down this path it's lights out. Now he looks like a flopper and it still will probably be lights out whenever an election comes.
      you don't think the LIBS/NDP are going to hot his stones hard on flopping on this? what will he flop on next? they will hammer it home
    3. Paul57 posted on 02/21/2014 01:40 PM
      @Sam "hidden agenda"... Only the Liberals have proven they had hidden agendas. Check out the provincial bill for their "agendas" (hidden or otherwise).

      Power plants
      Hospital funding in Niagara.
      etc, etc, etc...

      Tim Hudak... never in power. GO VOTE
    4. Sam posted on 02/21/2014 05:03 PM
      @Frankie Yes, Liberals have no principles, but at least they are consistent and people know what to expect when they are elected.

      People are not idiots for voting for the OLP - they are just afraid of the alternatives.

      That's life.

      This is another reason for people not to trust Tim Hudak to elect him Premier.
    5. Frankie posted on 02/22/2014 07:53 AM
      @Sam So OLP voters are afraid of the alternative to a party that consistently "steals", lies, and mismanages this province to economic ruin.

      You're right, they're not idiots, they actually meet the definition of insanity.
    6. GregH_5652 posted on 02/23/2014 10:58 AM
      @Sam Re: Flip Flopping.
      Consider this. The Liberals introduced healthy lunch alternatives in high school and mandated that all unhealthy (fried etc.) food be taken off the menu. Sounds like a good plan on the surface. But, high school kids are now simply driving, biking or walking to the fast food joints to get the food they want. Result: Badly needed revenues from the cafeterias which go to sports, trips etc. are now gone. So, the liberals, instead of rethinking the issue, are now doubling down on the program with millions in increased funding. Or in other words, they did not flip-flop. There comes a time when a leader must accept that their policy is not working/unwanted and abandon it. I would rather have a leader that admits to a bad decision and takes steps to correct it than an arrogant social engineer that throws good money after bad.
  2. Bob Walker posted on 02/21/2014 09:39 AM
    Sucks... I was in support of Hudak as Premier up until now. He has been scared off by the union bullies. Time for a conservative leader who will poke the bully back in his eye... Sorry Tim but you are NOT the One.

    Here comes 4 more year of crime, corruption and left wing social engineering.... Thanks again Tim for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
    1. Paul57 posted on 02/21/2014 10:43 AM
      @Bob Walker Not if you vote for Hudak. As wimpy as he is, not voting is worst. Stop making excuses to not vote for the guy. Hold your nose like I'm going to and vote the party. It's the ONLY answer for now.
    2. Jack posted on 02/21/2014 02:00 PM
      @Bob Walker Don't let one policy setback ruin the province for another four years. Get out there, mark your ballot for the Conservative candidate in your riding, and suck it up. Once we have a majority, we can have another look at right-to-work later. In the meantime, the PCs are STILL the only party interested in reducing spending, reducing taxes, and contracting out government services.
    3. AC posted on 02/21/2014 03:28 PM
      @Bob Walker I've been saying all along the conservatives with Timmy is our best friend to those of us on the centre left. he never lets us down :)
  3. AC posted on 02/21/2014 09:47 AM
    this guy is a lightweight with no backbone. most can see right through him
    no election is scheduled at this point. when and if there is campaign on what you believe in you coward. what's next you're going to start liking unions to get votes?
  4. Frankie posted on 02/21/2014 09:47 AM
    Timing obviously wasn't right for this strategy. Seems this is the first smart thing Hudak's done in a long time. Let's hope there's momentum here.
  5. Jack posted on 02/21/2014 10:11 AM
    Say it ain't so, Tim. Say it ain't so.

    Still, this doesn't change much. The Liberals still can't be trusted, the NDP are still welfare-state nutjobs, and the Conservatives are still the only choice for a rational person with bills to pay. Once we get a strong Blue majority in this province, we can take another look at putting a stop to constant union extortion.

    The choice is STILL clear: Hudak for Premier.
  6. Jack posted on 02/21/2014 10:11 AM
    Say it ain't so, Tim. Say it ain't so.

    Still, this doesn't change much. The Liberals still can't be trusted, the NDP are still welfare-state nutjobs, and the Conservatives are still the only choice for a rational person with bills to pay. Once we get a strong Blue majority in this province, we can take another look at putting a stop to constant union extortion.

    The choice is STILL clear: Hudak for Premier.
  7. john posted on 02/21/2014 10:34 AM
    wtf ! are u kiding me . that is the only reason why i would vote for him we need a leader that has balls and backbone he dos not have one . i gave him a chance and he messed it up . get him out as leader and get somone in who has the balls to stand up to unions and scum bags like mike harius that man had balls big balls .
  8. Only Common Sense posted on 02/21/2014 10:39 AM
    Too late, Howdy Doody.

    The voters of this province understand 3 very important things about you and your party:

    1. You aren't even a lightweight as a leader ... more like a featherweight.

    2. Your true stripes as a Tea Party North ultra right-winger have been exposed.
    Pretending to flop (again) on an important issue in the faint hope of fooling anyone
    doesn't change that fact.

    3. Your party still has the weakest bench in all of Canada. With or without you as a
    "leader", (being generous here), there is a scarcity of talent available to govern.
    1. Paul57 posted on 02/21/2014 10:53 AM
      @Only Common Sense The 'Only Common Sense' is to remove the party currently in power. Pick someone else. If you like the Liberal party, that is your right. I have grandchildren who are going to be paying off the sins of this self-centred government. The people of this province want everything paid by the government. They can't make difficult decisions. The people of this province truly are incapable of getting through life under their own effort. If you've maxxed out your money jar (credit cards, line of credit, 2nd/3rd home mortgage), you know there is nowhere to go but down. That's where this attitude is sending this province.

      Please stop endorsing the most corrupt government to date. But most importantly, get out and vote.
    2. john posted on 02/21/2014 11:12 AM
      @Paul57 dude dont waste your time the problum with liberal brown nosers is that thay have a thick skull and are brain washed . thay think everything liberal and thay will vote for them no matter what happens this province could go bankrupt and thay still vote for them . look what happened to Detroit . the only thing we got going is the fact not all people ( who are not in Toronto ) are not brain washed and realy read about what thay are saying and promise and make a intelligent vote based on that .
    3. Mister K For Canada posted on 02/21/2014 01:20 PM
      @Paul57 Agree that is important to get out and vote for someone, not to minimize the significance of each and every vote.
      Disagree that one should vote against any party and choose a candidate from an opposing party solely out of spite.
      Voters have to consider the policies and plans being set for the future of ALL parties. We are voting politicians in for the future, the past is gone.On election day, nobody can go back and start a new beginning to what has transpired, but everyone can start on election day to make a new ending.
      The political party which offers the best policies to make a new beginning on our road into the future is the party of choice.
    4. Rick posted on 02/21/2014 01:36 PM
      @Mister K For Canada It's really very simple.

      - The Liberals will keep on doing exactly what they've been doing, namely wasting the money we bust our humps to earn and confiscating more and more of it all the time.

      - The NDP would be far worse; if an NDP government gets elected, I'd be able to live more comfortably as a street person than as a wage-earner.

      - The Conservatives are the only mainstream party interested in bringing Ontario back to a state where the successful can enjoy their success, and failures have to deal with the consequences of their failure, as it should be.

      "The choice is clear, Hudak for Premier!"
    5. dama posted on 02/21/2014 03:56 PM
      @Paul57 I agree, the Liberal ought to go but when I look at Hudak and Howarth, these leaders are no better..

      NDP's policy to tax the corporation, scares me,, corporations employs people and if they are taxed heavily, who suffer? the people, for they wil hire less..

      Tim Hudak's policies is just as scarry.. right to work and then he flip flop.. he just lost his crebility.. as in camt make up his mind.. so he might promise me this and that and when he is power,, he wil renege.. that is scary too..

      so who do I vote, less of 2 evils?
    6. AC posted on 02/21/2014 04:02 PM
      @Rick reality is what he and other far right conservatives stand for is hurting the lower class all the while lining the pockets of big business, big corporations who in turn just pay more dividends to their shareholders not invest back in hiring more people. They're an easy target the lower class, they can't fight back.
      Just like Ford says he's all about the lower class but when you cut back services and hike user fees and call it savings who do you think it hurts. not me. doesn't hurt me one bit. hurts the lower class people who rely on those services. tides are changing.
      NYC just voted for a progressive mayor by a huge margin. he had no problem saying in a speech recently you make over 500 k you are going to pay a little more. that little more will go to pay for children services in NYC.
      when was the last time Hudak had that tone?
      why he will never get elected
    7. Frankie posted on 02/22/2014 12:17 PM
      @AC A fiscally conservative party is actually the best friend of the middle class. The very rich can afford to pay more tax and they very poor pay little tax. The middle gets squeezed worst by fiscal waste.

      Your comment that conservatives are in the pocket of big business is false. If you focus on Canadian politics and statistics it's the Liberals that are in the pocket of big business (donations from corporations are highest to the Liberals).

      As to dividends vs hiring people any well run corporation will do what provides the most profit to their business. If there's growth through more employees then that's what they'll do. if there isn't why would you expect them to hire more people? That would hurt their business which could hurt their employees, management and shareholders.

      BTW the biggest shareholders of big public companies are the pension funds of unions.
    8. Linguist posted on 02/23/2014 05:14 PM
      @john Sir,
      I speak 8 languages fluently, yet somehow you seem to have invented a new one that shares no similarities to any of them.
      Would you be so kind as to translate your gibberish into something readable?

      Thank you.
    9. john posted on 02/24/2014 11:01 AM
      @Linguist sounds like something only commonsense would say . u got to work on that one mate . i know it was u in the first sentence . nice try mate .
  9. XnehProgs posted on 02/21/2014 12:00 PM
    Time for the press to start paying attention to the Freedom Party.

    Time for the people to realize there is no such thing as a "Progressive" Conservative. You can't be a conservative and push a liberal agenda while kowtowing the unions.

    Sid Ryan must be having a laugh.
    1. Jack posted on 02/21/2014 12:36 PM
      @XnehProgs Had a look at their Wiki page, bookmarked the party website for later. Still, the fact is that we need to get rid of the Liberal government and prevent an NDP government from taking their place and making everything even worse, and the PCs are a more established and likely option than a party a lot of people have never heard of, no matter how sound their policies may be.
  10. dama posted on 02/21/2014 03:49 PM
    Tim Hudak just lost his crebibility by changing his mind on this right to work policy..
    I rather he stick with this than flick flock his policies.. which is an ok policy but at the wrong time. .. and I think he is going to lose in the next eection too due to this and many other factors..

    and why is he always carrying an imaginary ball on his hands whenever he talks to media, (both his arm is always out stretch, like carrying an imaginary ball.. lol)

    He will lose Etobicote North too since Doug Ford will not be a candidate and the Ford brothers are not campaigning for the PC..
    1. Frankie posted on 02/21/2014 03:57 PM
      @dama He doesn't present well which works against him. Being Conservative also works against him as Ontario is biased towards Liberals. Perhaps he should promise to steal, lie, and generally ruin this province economically.

      After all, it's worked well for the Liberals.
    2. Paul57 posted on 02/21/2014 05:10 PM
      @dama How does McGuinty, Horwath or Wynne get a pass in this department. Get real. Just go out and vote OUT a party that has screwed us for 10 years. This is not the end of the world folks. Another 4 years with the Liberals is!!!

  11. FPSC posted on 02/21/2014 08:03 PM
    Good thing, you wouldn't want Ontario to become one of those jurisdictions where factories are going up and jobs are being created. That would be terrible. We're better off in a Detroit-like situation where the union leader/boa constrictors strangle what's left of a few dying industries until there's nothing left.
    1. We need a change posted on 02/22/2014 02:45 PM
      @FPSC Well said...

      Caterpillar in St. Thomas was a prime example. GONE. There are many more but you can look them up (if you're inclined at all really understand what's going on).

      We (Ontario) are no longer the 'engine' of the economy that we used to be. That's life, start saving your money people because the entitled are coming after it. Major corporations, governments and unions don't care who is negatively affected so long as they are taken care of. They'll take from everyone young and old because, well... they can. No one will stand up to them and say, enough is enough. They don't understand there is only so much to go around. If they think raising their standard of living helps raise others, they're wrong. It simply shows how little they understand or even care. Union members take. Many CEO's & boards of directors care only for profit. Entrepreneur risk, sometimes their entire life savings, to build a business and make better place for everyone. They also provide employment. Unions, government, and big business don't have it in them to give, just take. To be fair, there are a few exceptions.

      Unions and government will never know the true pain of earning a living. They are the true 1% and the middle class; except that you make up more than 25% of the province's population. Companies who can't remain profitable should fold and let a better business take it's place. Maybe greedy corporate management will learn too that we're tired of giving to prop up their multi-million dollar parachutes.

      At least the rest of the population won't threaten and intimidate those who don't vote with our views. We're too busy writing cheques to uncaring corporations, civil servants, politicians and union workers.

      Before we jump in with the tireless and commendable efforts of those who helped out in the ice storm and disasters like that, let’s remember that far more people face danger and risk everyday just to feed their family. I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that’s the way of life for some. There are unique circumstances when the selfless human shows up. But it’s not just you, it shows up in all walks of life so let’s take that off the table.

      Disagree all you want. If you think the choices you make today don't make a difference later on, just go to one of our government funded old age homes. That's how we are treating our aged. There is no money left to properly care for them. I wonder why? Actually, if you cared one iota to really understand the hole this government has dug us, you might actually come to the realization this needs to change. After all, your parents, brothers or sisters, uncles or aunts, even grandparents may need to go in. Then we'll see you crying about the conditions and why did we let it get to this.

      People, we are where we are, and Detroit is not that far away.
  12. HP posted on 02/22/2014 09:34 AM
    Funny how fast Toronto voters have forgotten Mike Harris, his slash and burn policies, the amalgamation mess, the downloading of costs on Toronto taxpayers...we're the only jurisdiction that pays welfare from municipal taxes.

    The Liberals and NDP (remember Bob Rae?) seem better alternatives to the Party that Mike built. Hudak makes Atilla the Hun look like Mother Theresa.
    1. Paul57 posted on 02/22/2014 01:47 PM
      @HP Love him or hate him, Mike Harris was voted in for his platform. He did what he said he would do, and paid the price for the tough decisions. He made up for Bob Rae's lack of spending control and put this province back on a solid financial foundation. That's all gone now. And you have no one but the weak Ontario vote to blame.

      Mike Harris said he would slash and burn and the voters put him into power. It's funny how so many forget about how many voted for him and this policy. They also forget that democracy works for everyone. I've had to endure this last corrupt government at the expense of my democracy. When a government willing to make proper financial decisions is voted in, the crying from those don't agree will start. WELCOME TO DEMOCARCY. Wait your turn... like us responsible citizens did.

      AGAIN, GO OUT AND VOTE. That is every citizen's right.
    2. HP posted on 02/22/2014 03:55 PM
      @Paul57 I voted for Mike, I'd vote for him again...maybe I was just voting against Bob Rae, but Mike was a breath of fresh air.

      Sadly, that can't be said for the provincial Liberals or Conservatives, the irony is that the NDP are beginning to look like the real conservatives in Ontario.

      The first step is that we need to get rid of the Ford brothers and their relatives that are already lining up to run for office and bring in responsible leaders that are accountable to all voters, at all levels of government. We're now turning into an American political model where the leaders support only hose that vote for them.

      We see it in Harper, not so much in the provincial Liberal and NDP, definitely in Hudak, and the Fords have turned on their hate nation against anyone that doesn't agree with them. We see it in their robocalls and personal attacks on fellow councillors who are only doing the job that their constituents voted them in to do. The Fords are destroying Toronto and influencing the provincial Conservatives who are counting on Ford Nation for their votes...they'll do anything to keep them and the unions happy and it's shaping their party policies. Not a good thing for all voters.
    3. Frankie posted on 02/22/2014 07:01 PM
      @HP Harris campaigned on a platform and he actually did what he said he'd do, which is why he was elected, unlike McGuinty who lied the way we breathe air. Amalgamation on paper makes sense however they let councillors and civil servants manage themselves. That was the error!

      Harris is vilified for not being a liar. If we want Ontario to become a failed state the NDP and current Liberals would be a better alternative.

      Hudak is far from perfect however we've seen the alternatives and they're a disaster.
  13. MichaelB_2952 posted on 02/22/2014 09:29 PM
    As an opponent of Tim Hudak, I don't trust him on his abandoning of the "right-to-work-for-less" promise. If he does become the next premier, he will implement it.
    1. Frankie posted on 02/23/2014 06:43 AM
      @MichaelB_2952 As an opponent of a government that "steals", lies continually, caters to the whims of public unions, and incompetently mismanages our economy, I don't trust the Liberals to abandon their behaviour. If they win again, they will continue to implement the policies that have hurt Ontario the last 10 years.
  14. Rob Ford's Cadillac posted on 02/23/2014 02:27 PM
    Amazing. Not one, single intelligent comment on this board. No wonder you all follow The Tea Party North.
    I can't wait for the Liberals to kick your a**!
    Oh, and I believe in Unions because I believe in giving hard working Canadians decent wages for their work. Not you morons, apparently. Let's all race to the bottom! How much money are you going to have to spend then, geniuses? Get a grip. Mike Harris pulled this stunt and it destroyed Ontario for a quarter generation and now you goofs want to do it again. Pathetic.
    1. john posted on 02/24/2014 11:11 AM
      @Rob Ford's Cadillac somebody needs a oil change we should check the transmission fluid as well . maybe even the power steering as well as the computer that runs u . Cadillacs are a pieces of shit anyways . i would never buy one . all GM products are .
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