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Vince Li should be allowed out, unsupervised

Psychiatrists for man who beheaded Greyhond bus passenger says he should get unescorted passes

A doctor is suggesting that a man who beheaded a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba should get more freedom.

Vince Li's psychiatrist is asking the Criminal Code Review Board to let Li have unescorted day trips to Selkirk, Man.

Dr. Stephen Kremer says Li should also be moved out of a locked ward and onto an unlocked ward at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre.

Li has been at the mental hospital since he was found not criminally responsible for the killing of Tim McLean in 2008.

Li, an undiagnosed schizophrenic at the time, said he heard voices telling him to kill McLean, a complete stranger who was sitting beside him.

The review board holds annual hearings to review restrictions on Li, who was initially kept inside a locked wing 24 hours a day.

Kremer told the hearing Li has never been violent in the hospital, no longer suffers hallucinations or delusions and has made ``excellent'' progress.

Kremer said the ultimate goal is to have Li reintegrated into society - something McLean's mother has opposed.

Carol DeDelley has said Li should be kept in custody for the rest of his life because there is no guarantee he will always take his medication.

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  1. JZ posted on 02/24/2014 10:43 PM
    Vince Li should be allowed to live right next door to Dr. Stephen Kremer3
  2. aly posted on 02/24/2014 11:38 PM
    The rights of the innocent public should be foremost in the mind of this doctor. It's outrageous to give a man who decapitated an innocent man on a bus, an unsupervised visiting pass to ANYWHERE!! The price to pay for murder is incarceration of some kind.
  3. Angry Bill posted on 02/25/2014 11:00 AM
    Sure. Give him an unescorted pass. While you're at it, give him a free Greyhound bus pass, too. What could possibly go wrong?

    I love living in a society where you can saw off the head of a bus passenger and be integrated back into society. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. That must be how liberals feel.
  4. john posted on 02/25/2014 02:43 PM
    the only thing that would be warm and fuzzy is a 50 call bullet in the head . god i miss the death penalty .
  5. Karl Burgin posted on 02/25/2014 03:46 PM
    As abhorrent as his actions are, I do sincerely feel sorry for him, and his plight.
    When someone asks a judge to "...please just let me die", you gotta know that man is being tortured from the inside- to the point where its eating him alive.
    But giving him more and more freedom is also a nail-biter for me.

    I know I heard someone somewhere suggest that if the doctor's that are in charge of granting him more and more freedom, that they should have him live next to them for a while- if they are so confident in their decision. As crazy (no pun intended) as it sounds, that's not such a bad idea.
  6. RRH posted on 02/28/2014 07:25 PM
    How about common sense ? Very simple, criminal first, schizophrenia second. Either you are capable of such a sick horrendous crime or you are not. NO pills and therapy will eliminate the risk to the public. Question: who can guarantee that when he doesn't take his medication that he will not do this again - oh maybe his doctors who don't live near him. Oh what a good idea - may his doctor should live next door and walk over every morning and make sure he swallows his pill. I wonder if the doctor has a 22 year old child who would like to take this task on ? I have one and not a chance I would want a man like this near my family. I feel for this family - how can the justice/medical system be changed to ensure extreme situations like this one are recognized as criminal first, medical illness second !
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