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Almost 3,000 Toronto Police employees made the Sunshine List

Numbers revealed in Toronto Police Services Board document

Even though the Sunshine List is weeks from being released, Toronto Police have revealed that nearly 3,000 employees made over $100,000  last year.

That figure includes cops and civilian employees, such as administrative assistants and parking ticket officers.

Of the 2,983 employees, it includes 860 people who normally make less than $100,000 a year. Their earnings increased from things like overtime, vacation payouts after leaving the job and premium pay given when officers attend court cases.

This doesn't include any money officers make when they take "duty" jobs.

A police constable's base salary in 2013 was between $87,922 to 95,839.

In 2012, 3,181 Toronto Police employees made the list.

As for the Chief, Bill Blair made $334,291, plus $3,360.47 in benefits.

There are around 7,700 workers on the force.

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  1. Frankie posted on 03/07/2014 12:00 PM
    Politicians were stupid years ago being conned by the police union that they had to be paid significantly more in order to attract enough police otherwise there'd be a shortage.

    Total BS and that's why politicians and their public employees shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions.

    We have way too many police and they're grossly overpaid. Look at other jurisdictions in major USA cities where crime risk is higher as is cost of living, yet police make far less and there's no shortage.
    1. JohnVoter posted on 03/07/2014 01:27 PM
      @Frankie I agree. The bottom line is.....

      THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN WHAT THE CITY AND ITS PEOPLE CAN AFFORD NOT WHAT THEY FEEL IT RIGHT
    2. JohnVoter posted on 03/07/2014 01:27 PM
      @Frankie I agree. The bottom line is.....

      THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN WHAT THE CITY AND ITS PEOPLE CAN AFFORD NOT WHAT THEY FEEL IT RIGHT
    3. kathy posted on 03/07/2014 06:53 PM
      @Frankie And, specifically, what are they doing each day, in what conditions? How many incidents, how many warrantless searches, how many intruusions on the law-abiding public, how much violence per day, if any? HOw many police use a weapon, if any, in a singe day in Toronto.

      Why are there now 30 officers at a fender bender when there used to be one or two at most? Why 2-3 ambulances and 2-3 firetrucks for every minor mishap.

      Is it jst to keep the stats up? If so, we need to count the numbers at each incident and start dividing by the number actually needed.

      Taxpayers want to keep their own money, not see it wasted.
  2. Jack posted on 03/07/2014 12:11 PM
    Police deserve to be among the highest-paid employees of any city, given the dangerous and vital nature of their work. But even they need to respect the limits of what the taxpayers can reasonably be expected to support.
    1. FRANKLIN posted on 03/07/2014 03:30 PM
      @Jack Not so dangerous, especially when following traffic laws. Taxpayers cannot be expected to pay above private sector levels for any services whatsoever.
      And why 25% employees? What happens when overstaffing s so dramatic?
      Shouldn't the extra $250M go to daycare to enable the beginning of the dismantling of the welfare/slumlord/poverty system of Toronto city council?

      Ditto for about $200M in excess fire dept. expenses.
    2. ken posted on 03/09/2014 02:46 PM
      @Jack more construction/factory workers probably die each yr but we over romanticize police and fire which has led to their control over us. Want to scale back costs? you be met with "what you don't believe in public safety? so and so is putting lives at risk....!!!!!"
    3. le posted on 03/09/2014 04:07 PM
      @ken WSIB stats show policing is not very dangerous, ranking way down list, much further down than firefighting, itself now a very low-risk job, as compared to far far more dangerous construction, mining and hydro work which account for nearly all injuries and deaths..
      .
    4. toronto grumpy taxpayer posted on 03/13/2014 01:47 PM
      @Jack Too many chiefs and not enough indians...Overpaid with incompetent top heavy police....The focus is not crime but harassing citizens, issuing parking tickets speeding tickets..STRONGLY DISAGREE Bill Blair should be forced out of his job....Incompetent.
  3. JohnVoter posted on 03/07/2014 12:19 PM
    Cops down in the states make much less (around 30,000 - 40,000 per year) they have NO shortage of attracting good candidates. They cant ride this train forever and are clearly pricing themselves out of a job .

    Its happened before.
    HydroONE
    OLG
    Half of Toronto's Garbage collections

    The more you make the bigger target on your back! whose to say Contract Police or fire wont exist in 20 years. Start thinking in this way was the times are changing.

    The day will come when this will all collapse, we cant have Rich public servants and poor tax payers.
    1. sammy posted on 03/07/2014 02:19 PM
      @JohnVoter if it's true what you say and i'm not sure i believe you. but if the average police man or woman is making 30-40 k per year in the states tells me all i need to know about that country. it would also tell me also police corruption in the ranks and some getting kickbacks would be rampant throughout the country if that's what the average person makes. no wonder the place is a mess with all their inner city gangs. out of control murder rates/guns/crime

      i know what i make as a graphic designer for an advertising agency and what my responsibilities are with 30 yrs in the business.
      I would have no problem with our police making triple what i make considering overall how safe this city is and the great job they do in protecting our citizens and putting their life on the line for us.

      police or law services making peanuts reminds me of growing up in Europe where positions like police/customs agents. corruption in those areas would be rampant. i remember my dad always slipping bills to the custom guy at the airport to get his bottles through. no problem amigo come on in. people making peanuts just breeds crime and more crime from within and it shows in the social structure of the country
    2. karen posted on 03/07/2014 06:56 PM
      @JohnVoter Collapse my foot, taxpayers need to put their foot down and just say NO!
    3. frank g posted on 03/09/2014 04:17 PM
      @sammy This is not true and you know it. In TO, a pr police pencil pucher is earning more than the mayor at the same time the police chief ignored police board orders to cut costs, and while the board launches a search for a new more respectful and compliant chief. This is what's really going on.

      Do you pay property taxes so a police spinner of issues gets more than the mayor? Is that how you want you tax dollars spent?

      If you rent in Toronto, as near half do, you pay property taxes through your rent.
  4. Marcus posted on 03/07/2014 04:21 PM
    Considering the Toronto Police Service employs over 5500 police officers and 2200 civilian employees covering 636 square km with a diverse population of more than 2,600,000 people, I can understand why some people are making $100k to protect our great city BUT “almost 3000” officers is “a bit above 50%” of the population. Does that even make sense. It looks like we have a classic case of “too many cooks in the kitchen” or “too many Chiefs and … you know how this goes”. We are having trouble attracting new talents not because there is no funding. We are in trouble for using the budget quite differently. While we are on the subject – How much does Rob Ford make? Sigh.
    1. HP posted on 03/09/2014 09:17 AM
      @Marcus Rob Ford makes around $175,000 from the city plus expenses, plus his salary as CFO at Deco, plus his trust fund. He says that he's really upset about cops making the sunshine list, especially the senior administration officers, yet he had David Price on his staff for $125,000, plus a huge bonus, plus expenses, and the guy never had to show up for work. No one knew what he did and he had no job description.

      When you sign a contract with the police to pay them >$90,000 because Toronto cops have to be the highest paid cops in Canada. then layer in the overtime for court appearances and extra duty like the G20, then you get high payrolls...the big question is why some cops underperform and don't make the list after being promoted to First Class.

      I hear that Rob Ford also told us to set our clocks back one hour last night. Figures...
    2. Marcus posted on 03/10/2014 11:13 AM
      @HP What about we hire more cops so the others doing overtime can have a stronger work/life balance keeping 40hr weeks so they also don't get overly tired? if we have that many cops doing overtime, seems to be more prudent to hire cops. We'll then get more cop hours with reasonable hours, lot less overly tired cops and less overtime - which we have to pay an more for OT hours (time and a half). With all that OT, that's a lot of new headcounts we can hire for a lot less money and lot more hours given back to our hardworking men for their families. There seems to be no upside if we don't change things. It'll only go to - more tired cops having long hours which may not be good when we really need them on critical points.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 03/13/2014 12:38 PM
      @HP Another classic example of your inability to stick to the topic at hand. And turn ANY topic into something about Rob Ford.
  5. Herry posted on 03/08/2014 12:13 PM
    Talk about income inequality ! This is outrageous ! I HOPE CRIME INCREASES !!! MAKE THESE PIGS WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. john posted on 03/08/2014 12:26 PM
      @Herry thats a lot of money for beacon bro .
  6. Angry Bill posted on 03/10/2014 09:32 AM
    The biggest portion of their job is generating tickets. They need the revenue to pay for their salaries. This is why they make it extremely easy to pay your ticket, but obscenely difficult to fight it. They want you to just shut up and pay. Cops will earn my respect again once they become something more than just a ticket generating agency.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 03/13/2014 12:39 PM
      @Angry Bill Thoughtful, well said, and very true here....
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