UPDATE: WATCH: Premier knocks off possible transit funding tools

Opposition wary of promises

Gas tax, HST hike and tax increases for middle income earners.

The premier says those three things won't be part of the Liberal funding tool plan they'll use to pay for GTHA transit expansion.

Kathleen Wynne said last year that property tax increases were also off the table.

She wouldn't reveal if high income earners and corporations would bear most of the burden for new LRTs, subway expansion and buses. Wynne says the entire plan would be outlined in the spring budget.

In last year's budget, the minority Liberal government announced a plan to put in place High Occupancy Toll (HOT) lanes to pay for transit. They would act like HOV lanes but you would have to pay for access.

Last fall, the Finance Minister revealed a plan to sell Green Bonds to pay, in part for transit expansion.

The premier's office would not offer what income range it considers middle-income, stating repeatedly that the "plan to help middle-income Ontarians will be fully laid out in the upcoming Budget." There are four tax brackets in Ontario.

With the NDP long stressing middle-income earners need to be looked after, the premier denies this decision was to appease the part which has been allowing the government to survive. Wynne says they spoke to families not the NDP about their decision.

The Tories don't buy it.

Progressive Conservative Finance Critic Vic Fedeli says Kathleen Wynne's transit funding tools announcement wasn't for the people of Ontario, but rather one person: NDP leader Andrea Horwath.

NDP MPP Jagmeet Singh says he's sceptical of the premier's announcement, pointing to a Liberal promise not to put in place the HST at all but then doing an about-face.

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  1. Scrappy posted on 03/13/2014 11:17 AM
    Didn't her ex boss, McGuinty, promise the same thing about increased taxes.
  2. Frankie posted on 03/13/2014 11:22 AM
    They are "crooks"
    They are incompetent
    They are liars
    They advise the OPP to stand and watch while citizens are almost beaten to death
    They have set Ontario on a path to fiscal ruin

    It's better to know you're being f***ed rather than the uncertainty of it.

    Come election day vote Liberal for a guaranteed screwing!
  3. john posted on 03/13/2014 11:39 AM
    no it will not be a raise in taxes . it will be a HST premium and the same with the gas i am not falling for ti one bit . the sad part is i am the only one who is not .
  4. john posted on 03/13/2014 11:45 AM
    no it will not be a raise in taxes . it will be a HST premium and the same with the gas i am not falling for ti one bit . the sad part is i am the only one who is not .
  5. Ted posted on 03/13/2014 12:11 PM
    Wynne is a TOOL. She needs to spend some time in prison, along with her crooked pal Dalton.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 03/13/2014 12:14 PM
      @Ted Holy geez....

      If I found Kathleen Wynne at my kitchen table, I'd be calling 9-1-1. And sic my attack dogs on her.
      And eventually after the cops hauls her ass off to jail for trespassing, I will go through my house to make sure nothing is missing.
  6. SojBee posted on 03/13/2014 12:36 PM
    Borrowed ideas from the conservative playbook. She's trying to be something she is not, you know when its fake, when its a bunch of lies. She'll turn her colours again once she (hopefully not) get elected, like McGuinty did.

    Most recently, This same liberal government tried to back off from the Scarborough subway extension, after they won in Scarborough promising to build the subway, remember?! I do!

    Bunch of liars and crooks!!
  7. Mark posted on 03/13/2014 01:09 PM
    When will EVERYONE get the FACT that it does not matter what a Librano says. It's all bull-crap and it is all lies. What is even more pitiful is that Libranos have no respect for the idiots who vote for them because they are just pawns to be abused. and lied to. The only people Libranos respect are the pig teachers unions and pig teachers who prop up the Libranos.
  8. Ken posted on 03/13/2014 01:18 PM
    Lies, Lies, Lies, Lies! This two-headed (McGuinty/Wynne) government and it's MPPs are the least believable, most incompetent, most corrupt and damaging elected group in the history of this country!

    You know when someone knows they have overstayed their welcome? Well, this bunch of crooks can't even figure that out!
  9. toronto grumpy voter posted on 03/13/2014 01:43 PM
    Get off your ass and call and election you incompetent, stupid, sleazy liberal dictator...
  10. Scrappy posted on 03/13/2014 01:47 PM
    The best revenue tool idea would be for the Liberal party to pay up the billion dollars that it cost to get two of their MPP's appointed. Could also throw in the millions spent on eHealth and Ornge.
  11. Walter posted on 03/13/2014 02:15 PM
    I work for the Provincial Government and I am tired of wasting all this money. The motto is to spend, spend, spend, with no regard for efficiency.
    Please kick out these incompetent and corrupt fools so that Ontario can restore its spot as a major economic power.
  12. john posted on 03/13/2014 02:41 PM
    get rid of these scum bags and ont empire will raise again .
  13. franklin G. posted on 03/13/2014 03:31 PM
    Will she cut Ontario's obscene absurd gov. waste, over-staffing and mismanagement? We live in hope.
  14. franklin G. posted on 03/13/2014 03:32 PM
    Will she cut Ontario's obscene absurd gov. waste, over-staffing and mismanagement? We live in hope.
    1. l posted on 03/13/2014 03:34 PM
      @franklin G. Thank you Mayor Ford. It was the mayor's push that forced the province ot bakc dwn.
  15. ABH posted on 03/14/2014 12:03 AM
    whenever there's an election. probably won't be until the full term is up. even though you hear some bluster from the NDP they're in a sweet spot to get some of their agenda through. They're not going to risk the hand they have currently. I think the liberals overall work well with them once you get past the rhetoric
    I'm good as long as it's the Libs or NDP in power.
    Who in their right freakin mind would vote for Hudak? the man would decimate the middle class.
    I guess Ford supporters would hahaha
    Whoever is left in that crowd of bumpkins..
    1. Frankie posted on 03/14/2014 06:00 AM
      @ABH You call "stealing", mismanaging billions, lying, etc. rhetoric? This is the most incompetent gov't in recent Ontario history and you're happy with that? You prove the rhetoric that Liberal voters have their heads in the sand.
  16. Frankie posted on 03/14/2014 02:41 PM
    Wynne refuses to define the middle class because it is a moving target for her, the target being the largest group of Liberal voters. Once she is advised how "middle class" lines up with Liberal votes she'll then define it.
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