OPP and Toronto Police dispute aspects of Rob Ford investigation

The Star reports there's a disagreement about who is the extortion victim in Project Brazen 2

Rob Ford and Sandro Lisi

There seems to be a profound disagreement between Toronto Police and the OPP about the extortion case surrounding the Rob Ford crack video.

The Toronto Star is reporting that the Toronto police train of thought is that the man who tried to shop the video to the media was the one being extorted, allegedly by Sandro Lisi. The OPP investigative thought process is that the extortion victim was Mayor Rob Ford.

The story points out that one theory does not mutually exclude the other. There could have been two extortion attempts.

The Star says the disagreement between the lead investigators is at such a point that the OPP has stepped back from the case, but has not stepped out.

According to the article, OPP communications officer Sgt. Pierre Chamberland said "The OPP has determined that there is no role for futher investigation because to date there is no new information or evidence that has been provided to the OPP."

You'll recall it was a month ago when Toronto's chief Bill Blair asked the OPP Commissioner to take an oversight role in the investigation but the the probe itself would continue to be conducted by the special unit Blair set up.

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  1. frank posted on 04/03/2014 06:38 AM
    When the system fails, it is not unusual for the target of crime to be painted as the villain and investigated as such. Glad to see the OPP are re-thinking this view, and that newstalk110 got this story.
    1. Sonny posted on 04/03/2014 09:08 AM
      @frank Ford opened himself to this by smoking crack. His dealer may have tried to sell him the video which he did not buy but instead sent in Lisi to extort. That is why they are the Brazen 2 that the "police" are still investigating
  2. don was right posted on 04/03/2014 08:34 AM
    Next step will be investigating Blair. The worm turns.
  3. Get Real posted on 04/03/2014 09:04 AM
    So OPP (Ontario Political Police) bunch has arrived at this brilliant conclusion after being on the job for only 2 weeks?

    Sorry ... I'll go with the months of investigation done by Toronto Police Services.
    1. Jake posted on 04/03/2014 09:19 AM
      @Get Real Blair has wasted millions of tax dollars on this personal witch hunt. Good on the OPP. Time for Blair to hand in his badge, he f--ked up big time.
  4. Sam posted on 04/03/2014 09:25 AM
    throw the fat slob in the slammer right now.
    1. don was right posted on 04/03/2014 09:32 AM
      @Sam Balair is not THAT fat
    2. ted posted on 04/03/2014 11:14 AM
      @Sam You mean quick, before any more of the crooked TPS story is blow away... It would be a shame if the OPP proved Ford innocent before you could hustled him out of office. You are another Liberal Crook.
  5. AC posted on 04/03/2014 10:00 AM
    i like how the white trailer trash Ford apologists pick and choose what Toronto Star articles they like or don't like. This one they think they see something in their favour so all of a sudden the Star is correct. i have full confidence in both of those police services they think Ford is a scum petty criminal. it's just a matter of crossing all the t's and dotting the i's and bringing people to justice. white trash get back to work. your hero will eventually face justice
    1. Brian posted on 04/03/2014 10:37 AM
      @AC You're an Idiot!
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 10:57 AM
      @Brian I concur.
    3. Dennis posted on 04/03/2014 11:21 AM
      @Brian NO! you're an idiot! so there!
    4. Dennis posted on 04/03/2014 11:22 AM
      @Karl Burgin shadup! you don't know sht!
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 11:36 AM
      @Dennis Is that the common leftie talking point when you've got no ammo left...i see
    6. john posted on 04/03/2014 02:19 PM
      @Karl Burgin did u know u can kill someone with fallow language lol .
    7. A Question posted on 04/22/2014 11:37 AM
      @john What the hell is "fallow" language you illiterate moron?
  6. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 10:18 AM
    1.>Its about time.
    2.>A third party should have been investigating this from the very beginning
    3.>Toronto Police now has a lot to answer for- with trips to California, millions spent on surveillance, etc..
    4.>Now it's beginning to look more like FORD MORE YEARS.
  7. john posted on 04/03/2014 10:41 AM
    of course ford was the victim DUH thats not hard to figure . instead of wasting money and time how about giving the money to me so i can tell them who the victim is . i could use the money more then a bunch of pigs . bad enough we get pigs running queens park . OINK OINK OINK OINK .
  8. Ma Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 10:43 AM
    Karl, your porridge is ready !
    Come upstairs from the basement and eat your breakfast.
    And get away from the computer. You're making the family look bad again.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 10:57 AM
      @Ma Burgin Stranger Danger! You're not my mom!
    2. Dennis posted on 04/03/2014 11:24 AM
      @Ma Burgin haha... put on a pair of pants also Karl. you're always in your underwear down in the basement
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 11:37 AM
      @Dennis ...and I suppose you're my dad?

      And no, I'm not in my basement, as you would like to think. I'm out and about.
    4. john posted on 04/03/2014 11:39 AM
      @Ma Burgin and how do u know that ?
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 12:23 PM
      @john I'm betting this is the same guy (or gal) professing to be your mom too...
      Its all about equal opportunity adoption ;p
    6. john posted on 04/03/2014 02:27 PM
      @Karl Burgin i am 33 years old trust me he or she will not have the opportunity .
    7. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 03:21 PM
  9. Ted posted on 04/03/2014 11:11 AM
    Strange how the OPP theory makes sense, while the theory by David Millers boy Blair sounds ludicrous. Makes one wonder if maybe Blair should be investigated for malfeasance and abuse of authority.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 11:40 AM
      @Ted lol....its kinda funny how busy the OPP has become lately...

      1.>Investigating Kathleen Wynne and her Liberals
      2.>Working with the Toronto Police- only to show how wrong they are
      3.>Possibly starting an investigation into Blair, and Toronto Police investigation methods.
    2. john posted on 04/03/2014 11:49 AM
      @Ted all politicians should be investigated and thay should open KP so we can throw the corrupt ones in the jail . of course that might be a problum cause all of them are corrupt and the whole system might be a overhaul .
    3. Frankie posted on 04/03/2014 12:02 PM
      @Karl Burgin They have more time on their hands since McGuinty told them to keep away from natives assaulting non-natives.
  10. Bob posted on 04/03/2014 11:42 AM
    Rob Ford may very well deserve to be in jail but this was never about his inexcusable personal behavior. However, Ford did have the audacity to attempt to reign in an out of control budget. The chief with the blessings of police forces across the nation has made an example of what happens to politicians who dare question their authority. The police have always presented a conundrum to right wing politicians. They love to rant about how unions are killing this country but none are willing to stand up to the most powerful and overpaid union in the nation. In light of Blair's actions it's really no surprise.
    1. john posted on 04/03/2014 11:53 AM
      @Bob the reason why people are not standing up to the unions is because there is too many unions ass kickers if people stop kissing there ass thay would be so damn big .
    2. Frankie posted on 04/03/2014 12:00 PM
      @Bob You're dead on! Police use scare tactics that if they're not paid the absurd amounts they're receiving there'd be no police. Look at major cities in the USA for comparison. We have too many police as well. Similar comments re other public unions.

      Politicians shouldn't be allowed to negotiate any union's pay
  11. don was right posted on 04/03/2014 01:14 PM
    RoFo exxonerated according to OPP. Ford more years. Start by rolling back the $10,000,000 loan to MLSE
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 04/03/2014 03:23 PM
      @don was right If they don't roll back the money, Ford wins by saying "I told you so". If they do give the money back, he still wins by saying "I told you so".

      Its win/win all around.
  12. ted posted on 04/22/2014 11:25 AM
    I look forward to the police services board hearing into Blair's criminal abuse of authority and his miss-appropriation of city paid staff and helicopters to stalk Ford, a level of surveillance that is unwarranted on the merits of the alleged crimes he was unsuccessfully seeking to blame on Ford.
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