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LISTEN: Hudak won't back down on gas plant allegations

PC leader unfazed by being served with libel notice

Tim Hudak in Newstalk 1010 studios, April 6 2014
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Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak says he won't be backing down, despite receiving a libel notice from the Premier.

Hudak made the comments on Newstalk 1010's The Province, where he sat in the host's chair for the second time.

The focus of the show was jobs, but the first caller, Shirley from Ottawa, had something else in mind and asked Hudak point blank if he was going to step back from his accusations tied to deleting files in the gas plants scandal.

"No, we're not going to back down," said Hudak. "They're not going to silence us. We're not going to be part of the cover-up. We're going to hold them to account,'' Hudak told listeners.

Kathleen Wynne filed a libel notice against Hudak and his energy critic Lisa MacLeod after they alleged that she "oversaw and possibly ordered" deletion of gas plant emails. Wynne's spokesperson has called the claim "unfounded." A libel notice is the first step on the road to filing a defamation suit.

On Sunday, Hudak insisted the billion dollar cancellation leads directly to Wynne's office "whether she likes it or not", but stopped short of repeating the offensive lines.

Newstalk 1010 legal analyst Edward Prutschi Hudak's words were dangerously close to the line, especially based on what the Ontario Provincial Police has said at committee hearings.

"The indications at least at this early stage are that this is not  ultimately going to fall at the feet of Kathleen Wynne," he says. "At least at this point there isn't that level of personal responsibility."

That doesn't mean she has no political responsibility and that's where Hudak needs to focus. By not repeating his original statement, Hudak is playing it safer, while still doing what he has to as opposition leader.

"He is standing by the convictions and the general tone of the commentary albeit in what I think is, in a legal perspective, a wiser way to do it."

OPP who are investigating the scandal, have alleged in court documents that the boyfriend of a staffer was given access to government computers by David Livingston, Chief of Staff to former premier Dalton McGuinty.

 But Wynne insists no members of McGuinty's staff had access to the premier's office after she took over.

She has acknowledged that the tech-savvy boyfriend had separate contracts with the Liberal party and Liberal caucus.

Police say computer experts can't determine when 20 of 24 hard drives were accessed with a special password valid for weeks after Wynne was sworn in.

Livingston's lawyer has said his client did not break the law.

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  1. Lifelong Conservative Voter posted on 04/06/2014 11:19 AM
    Three important things today, Mr. Hudak:

    1. Try to sound less like a wannabe DJ.
    2. Tell us SOMETHING about a Hudak policy position (not just more Lib bashing AND no more, please, about your million jobs pipe dream).
    3. Take a definitive stand on the whole libel matter - not more wait-and-see stuff.
    1. Lifelong Conservative Voter posted on 04/06/2014 01:37 PM
      @Lifelong Conservative Voter Oh, Tim, Tim, Tim !!
      I'm 30 minutes into this program and I'm all done ... and so are you.

      1. Well, you dress like a small town DJ - brown jacket with blue jeans and a purple/mauve (?) shirt and no tie. Sorry, that's not the way to look like a possible Premier.
      2. Sorry, again - the whole show will be about the pipe dream of your million jobs scheme?? Good God, man, the fact is, that as long as PM Harper's handling of the economy continues to stifle growth you can't get more than half way to this goal - and - the jobs will continue to be part-time without any benefits for the most part. You know it but won't say it and until you're honest with the voters and with yourself, don't waste any more of our time with this bit of silliness.
      3. No real stand, again, on the libel issue. Why are you afraid to speak up completely about this or admit that you put both feet into your mouth at the same time?

      I am not only a lifelong conservative voter, but I have been the president of a Provincial Conservative Riding Association - but we're all done here, Mr. Hudak - you just don't have the depth to do the job.
    2. Ted posted on 04/06/2014 02:55 PM
      @Lifelong Conservative Voter His suit? Really?

      Your superficial ranting about the color of his jacket offending your Laurentian elite sensibilities makes it clear that you are no conservative, or if you are you are just another red-tory liberal.
    3. Mark7 posted on 04/06/2014 03:07 PM
      @Lifelong Conservative Voter I do not give a damn about how Mr. Hudak dresses, and neither should you. Your point is infantile and foolish at best.

      One of the many problems in this world these days is the "bling bling" attitude. The saying is old now but the damage done to impressionable minds like yours has been effective. Sigh

      CLOTHES DO NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE, HOW ONE PERFORMS ON THE JOB IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT.
    4. tanks posted on 04/06/2014 03:09 PM
      @Lifelong Conservative Voter All hail the Conservative in name only.

      You might as well just be a Liberal Party member.
    5. Scrappy posted on 04/07/2014 10:03 AM
      @Lifelong Conservative Voter Despite your stating you are a "Lifelong Conservative" your derogative statements do not make this statement believable.
      Who is the perfect politician in your opinion? You seem to want a movie star politician, try Trudeau.
  2. Herry posted on 04/06/2014 12:50 PM
    HEY HUDAK, SHUT YOUR USELESS YAP !!!!!! We all know that tories are inherently corrupt, so, SHUT THE EFF UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/06/2014 03:13 PM
      @Herry HAHAHA

      You are a moronic criminal Fiberal supporter. Face the fact that your party has finally been caught in their decades of criminal activities and corruption. The fact that you support their PROVEN attempt to cover up the e-mails is unfathomable.
      Someone is going to jail, and I hope he/she is not in protected custody either!

      FIBERALS HAVE LESS WORTH THAN A HEAP OF TRASH. CASE CLOSED
    2. Scrappy posted on 04/07/2014 10:14 AM
      @Herry Sarcasm is neither wit nor humor but the insane ravings of a deceased mind. When you have to stoop to this kind of remark you have already lost.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 04/07/2014 03:26 PM
      @Herry Ask yourself these two questions, and then let's see if your statement is valid...
      1.>What corruption has the Conservatives been found guilty of in the past decade?
      2.>What corruption has the Liberals been guilty of in the past decade?

      This may be easy for some. Let's see if Henry can figure it out...
  3. Etobi-COKE Voter posted on 04/06/2014 01:51 PM
    Sources flying over the 1010 RB studio have detected pinging.................

    Is Tim still pinging??

    Relax Tim ................ after you crash and burn in this gig you can become a Sun TV News contributor along with your backroom guy Mark Bonokoski ............... another Sun Media flame out

    The future is bleak ..................
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/06/2014 03:16 PM
      @Etobi-COKE Voter If you vote for the criminal, unabashedly ignorant Fiberals then yes, the future is indeed bleak!
  4. Etobi-COKE Voter posted on 04/06/2014 01:55 PM
    Geez Tim .................... when you coming out to the Chrysler plants in Brampton and Bramalea to see all the jobs you want to destroy and replace by $12 an hour jobs that make the stats look better?
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/06/2014 03:17 PM
      @Etobi-COKE Voter Auto workers are FAR overpaid and abuse their time on the job. Good riddance to them. Time for them to have a reality check.
  5. GWG posted on 04/06/2014 06:21 PM
    Let's--Harris got away with murder (literally) 2 times. Dalton will get away with the gas fiasco--Libel--that's nothing.
    1. Frankie posted on 04/07/2014 06:07 AM
      @GWG What murders?
    2. Scrappy posted on 04/07/2014 10:08 AM
      @GWG Ridiculous remarks like yours show how low the Liberal supporters are willing to go to excuse lies, stealing and false promises.
      If this statement is the best you have, give up.
    3. john posted on 04/07/2014 12:07 PM
      @GWG oh please harries was not a killer . u are just pised cause he stud up to the unions . harries was a unions worse night mare . the only thing the liberals are the killer of is jobs with all there stupid so called user fees . and high utility prices . as well as taxes .
  6. AC posted on 04/07/2014 09:32 AM
    that's it Hudork. i hope you and MacLoudmouth keep on doubling down. It's just going to make your apology to the premier make the both of you look like bigger clowns than you are..
  7. Fact Provider posted on 04/07/2014 09:36 AM
    This current back and forth thing is a "lose - lose" for Hudak.

    Wynne has succeeded in changing the tone of it all to Hudak vs Wynne rather than Cons vs Libs and he cannot win this one.

    Once again, it looks like Hudak has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
    1. Scrappy posted on 04/07/2014 10:22 AM
      @Fact Provider When we give up because our "leader" does not have the phony finesse that has kept the Liberal party in power for so long then you could be right
      .
      Some of us do not give up that easy or put any stock in how you view a person, but in the "true" facts about the Liberal party. This is how the Liberals are hoping people will think.
    2. Sonny posted on 04/07/2014 10:31 AM
      @Scrappy The fact is that Hudak & the Cons were going to stop the plant construction AFTER the election that would have even cost more!
    3. Frankie posted on 04/07/2014 11:48 AM
      @Sonny PLEASE PLEASE get your facts straight. People in the energy industry and in the know with the contracts have advised that the cost to cancel the plants AFTER the election would have been minimal. McCrook and his fiberals didn't want to take the risk of waiting until after the election, hence the Billion plus cost.
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 04/07/2014 03:30 PM
      @Fact Provider 1.>I like your last line. Although I wouldn't use it in this instance- nonetheless, still very clever.
      2.>I'm not one to jump in defending Hudak- but he's absolutely being right here. And actually, he's been on a winning streak of sorts.
      3.>Tim has to stay on top of Wynne and Liberals- and not take the foot off the gas pedal. If he keeps the pressure up, there's no way Wynne is going to be able to turn this into a 'likability' competition like before. Because that's pretty much the only strength she has.
    5. Fact Provider posted on 04/07/2014 09:24 PM
      @Karl Burgin In response to your reply I'd like you to consider this.
      As to your second point - you can call it right - I call it falling into the trap of personality vs personality and he'll lose that one.

      As to your third point, the other strength she has and the one that will bury Hudak is that he is seen as a waffler and not a strong leader. She is seen as one - rightly or wrongly.

      I think you'll see that he will not follow your advice, but he will attempt to change gears or topics over the next week or two. Conservative insiders will convince him to keep easing out of the libel thing (as he started on Sunday by purposely not repeating his earlier allegations). This will be perceived as yet more waffling on his part.

      Lastly, what may turn out to be the comment that hurts the Conservatives the most won't be just his comments but might just be Lisa MacLeod's tweet that Wynne is a crook. His original comments are a hairsbreadth distance one way or the other on the libel line - her tweet is way over the top. Either way, he's the leader of the party and her boss and the Conservatives will be in trouble if and when the writ is dropped.
    6. Karl Burgin posted on 04/08/2014 12:05 AM
      @Fact Provider Though I agree with some of your argument but not all, it's still very well put.

      I guess at this point, only time will tell. And here's hoping that Hudak doesn't disappoint.
      I do agree with u on this though. The PCs do need a stronger leader, if they are to capitalize on this. Either that, or Hudak needs to grow his pair a bit bigger.
      If he loses his focus on this, I think I will just cry.
    7. Fact Provider posted on 04/08/2014 05:02 AM
      @Karl Burgin The PC's made their bed when they reaffirmed Hudak as leader.
      This once mighty provincial force just isn't that, any more, and Hudak just doesn't have what it takes to be an effective leader in the true sense of the word.
      As to your last line, I'll probably see you in line at CostCo when we pick up our cases of Kleenex for the inevitable weeping after the next provincial vote.
    8. Karl Burgin posted on 04/09/2014 10:01 AM
  8. john posted on 04/07/2014 10:53 AM
    lol lol lol u liberal brown nosers are something man . still trying desperately trying to brainwash the masses . it is always fun listing to the brown nosers go on there BS about how good the liberals are . some politician grows a pair of balls and all of the sudden it is Armageddon . congrats to Timmy at lest he find a pair to put on . face it the liberals are toast . but don't fret Quebec is having a election and by the sounds of it the liberals are getting in . people in that province are stupid enough to put them in power . i would rather have the PQ in there then those jokers . Ontario was bankrupt by the liberals and by the sounds of it Quebec is the next target .

    some people have been making fun of my spelling and qustian the language i speck . what u don't understand is i don't care . i was used to being teased when i was a kid and i just give them the finger and moved on . if i could give people who insult me the finger viva text i would . so don't waste your time it has no affect on me whatsoever . u are not getting paid to do it and i am getting paid for it either .
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/07/2014 07:28 PM
      @john Great post John. Let us all give the finger to sticky faced Wynne on election day. That is if she is not in jail at the time.
  9. john posted on 04/07/2014 11:46 AM
    sorry for the multi post my ISP is being a pain in the ass today .
    1. Dennis posted on 04/07/2014 12:24 PM
      @john that's ok! we've all been there
      nonsense sounds better repeated 3 times anyways
    2. john posted on 04/07/2014 01:24 PM
      @Dennis what u just said sounds more like nonsense . but i am not the one in power to judge .
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 04/07/2014 03:32 PM
      @Dennis It looks like you can't even follow your own rule. You forgot to repeat your spiel a couple more times...
    4. Mark7 posted on 04/07/2014 07:31 PM
      @Dennis It is indeed nonsense that you find John's post nonsense. Care to exemplify (means explain) on even one point?

      Another criminal Fiberal supporter folks. Of course like all lefties he has not a valid point to make
    5. Mark7 posted on 04/07/2014 07:32 PM
      @Karl Burgin LMFAO Karl. Touche
    6. Karl Burgin posted on 04/07/2014 08:00 PM
      @john Thank God ur back.
      Ur evil dopple ganger was back with a vengeance - using ur name especially
    7. Karl Burgin posted on 04/08/2014 12:08 AM
      @Karl Burgin That comment was meant for Mark7 ;p
    8. Mark7 posted on 04/08/2014 03:34 AM
      @Karl Burgin Imitation is the highest form of flattery, Karl. We both are mocked constantly because these others have not a leg to stand on. lol

      I know what was going on. I just took a hiatus from posting because I was laughing and enjoying myself too much, while reading the absurdities.

      No worries mate. Only the non astute cannot differentiate between me and him. Could they be lefties? hmmm
    9. Karl Burgin posted on 04/09/2014 10:25 AM
      @Mark7 Only lefties....
      Of my entire time here, i have yet to see one on our side of the fence employ such childish tactics.
    10. Mark7 posted on 04/09/2014 02:37 PM
      @Karl Burgin Case in point. We are of a higher education and moral standards than them, Karl.
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