Tories talk transit funding tools as Premier gets ready to release her plan

PC leader Tim Hudak also wants DVP, Gardiner and Allen to be taken over by the province

Later today, Premier Kathleen Wynne is expected to unveil her plan for funding GTA transit expansion during a speech at the Toronto Region Board of Trade.

This morning, Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak spoke of what he wouldn't do - increase your taxes. He says he's pay for transit expansion by creating more jobs to increase income tax revenue to the province.

Hudak says he would also shave at least 10 per cent off of the $12 billion the province spends on infrastructure and buildings a year. He says he would put that money towards subways.

The Tories also want to tackle traffic and are looking to make the highway system flow. Hudak says he wants the Allen Expressway, Don Valley Parkway and Gardiner Expressway in Toronto, as well as  Highway 174 in Ottawa to be taken over by the province.

Those highways are now the responsibility of municipalities, meaning they pays for maintenance. Hudak wouldn't say how the province would be able to shoulder the annual cost.

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  1. Sonny posted on 04/14/2014 11:20 AM
    How would Hudak create jobs? By giving corporate welfare to already profitable companies that are sitting on billions in cash?!
  2. AC posted on 04/14/2014 11:37 AM
    I didn't even have to read it because i knew his answers to transit funding. the same as Fords the transit fairy will come and build it and not cost taxpayers anything.
    Tim is a genius! bring in 30-50 bil in extra income tax by more people having jobs by providing corporate welfare and perks and spend less on building bridges and fixing roads. How come Rob didn't think of that he had us fooled with private money would save the day.
    smoke and mirrors from conservatives.
    1. Frankie posted on 04/14/2014 11:56 AM
      @AC Liberals don't need smoke and mirrors because they've demonstrated over the past 11 years how they've run this province...into the ground!

      We have a 100% guarantee of incompetence and "theft" and lying with the Liberals. Hudak hasn't been in power so we don't know how he might perform.

      A very simple question would be "Do you want a government that will 100% ruin this province as they've done the last 11 years or do you want an unknown that can't do worse but might actually do better?"
  3. Robert posted on 04/14/2014 12:24 PM
    Basically it looks like the Eglinton Crosstown will probably get built, the pearson-airport link will probably get built, and the scarborough SRT subway replacement will probably get built. Also the GO system might get some improvements. Other than that it looks like we probably won't see any serious improvement in the system for the next 20-25 odd years at least. Politicians (liberal, conservative, NDP) just seem like they are more interested in their short term political prospects than actually getting anything built.

    In the case of Hudak back in December, 2013 he was saying he was going to fund transit at 2 billion a year (rather than the 1.2 billion he is suggesting here) by selling off buildings, cancelling all-day kindergarten, and laying off staff. I'm not sure why his plan has since changed but its tiring to see political "leaders" who have been in office for years/decades being unaware about how they are going to fund their proposals.

    Wynne obviously herself has funded any study she could possibly justify (on transit and other issues) just to give her friends cushy board seats. She's also shown a total unwillingness to stick with any kind of consistent funding proposal (cuts from other departments, new taxes/fees, etc). Plus with the gas plants and everything else I don't see why you would believe anything out of her mouth.

    Horwath says to pay for transit we should hike corporate taxes and taxes on high income earners. She says she has no plans of raising taxes on the middle class to pay for transit, but most if not all of her MPP's have signed a pledge from civicaction to do so. Between that and her support for Wynne I don't see why you'd believe a word out of her mouth.

    So basically beyond the few transit projects I mentioned earlier, most of which will be finished in 6-8 years (the Scarborough subway will take longer), none of the provincial leaders seem to have any kind of consistent plan to pay for this stuff. At least not plans that can be believed.
    1. AC posted on 04/14/2014 12:42 PM
      @Robert sadly you probably make the most sense. politicians are more interested in power and saving themselves than doing the hard thing.
      I'm all for all politicians to stay out of transit and city building. Only the experts with a mandate should have a say
  4. don was right posted on 04/14/2014 01:26 PM
    we are going to find out soon enough that the airport link, which is basically reusing existing track most of the way, will cost more than Russia spent on the road and railway to sochi.
  5. Bob posted on 04/14/2014 03:12 PM
    of course the corporate sector will hire enough Canadians if we give them enough corporate welfare, perks and breaks that in total the new hires will pay enough income tax that we will have more than enough for all our future transit planning. definitely is a conservative transit plan. my question is after corporations keep the money for themselves and their share holders and instead of hiring Canadians they hire Mexican and Bangladeshi at lower wages how will we collect the new income tax?
  6. Tim Hudak's Friend posted on 04/14/2014 04:16 PM
    Tim, the people are noticing that you always bring Skeletor with you when you are talking about Toronto.

    Trust me, Tim, you might think this gives you some credibility as a leader ... it doesn't.
    1. tanjo posted on 04/17/2014 05:29 PM
      @Tim Hudak's Friend Holyday did well by the city. I hate seeing him stand there as Hudak's hood ornament.
  7. MarkFromEtobicoke posted on 04/14/2014 06:58 PM
    "PC leader Tim Hudak also wants DVP, Gardiner and Allen to be taken over by the province"

    It would be nice if he took responsibility for the fact that it was the previous PC government under Mike Harris that downloaded the expense of these highways to Toronto in the first place.
    1. Walter posted on 04/15/2014 12:54 PM
      @MarkFromEtobicoke By far the most expensive of these highways is the elevated Gardiner. In terms of repair costs, the province only downloaded about 10%.
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