Cop accused in Sammy Yatim death back in court and at work

Toronto Sun reporting the officer is in an admin role with Crime Stoppers

The Toronto Sun is reporting that the officer charged in the death of Sammy Yatim is back at work.

According to the paper, Toronto Const. James Forcillo is in an administrative role with Crime Stoppers, and has been for several months.

The paper says the decision to bring Forcillo back after a seven-month suspension with pay was made by Chief Bill Blair.

Forcillo is expected back in court Thursday for the continuation of a preliminary hearing that will determine whether or not he'll stand trial in the death of 18-year-old Yatim.

Yatim was allegedly waving a knife and threatening passengers on a TTC streetcar. After shouting for him to drop the knife, police fired several bullets into the car.

Forcillo is facing a second-degree murder charge.

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  1. StephenS_5505 posted on 04/24/2014 07:50 AM
    What's with cops and facial hair? Is this supposed to be a intimidating look.
    1. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 06:43 PM
      @StephenS_5505 This might answer your question StephenS. Have a look at images of Forcillo and then look up George Zimmerman....creepy, it must be an intimidation look.
  2. don was right posted on 04/24/2014 09:12 AM
    if there is supposed to be evidence that will justify the cop's action lets hear it, otherwise its just intimidating behaviour by the cop and his lawyer
  3. Sonny posted on 04/24/2014 09:19 AM
    Hopefully he won't be handling weapons in his new role given the Police Union is very strong at the PR.
  4. Herry posted on 04/24/2014 09:24 AM
    WHAT ???!!!!! A murderer is on the streets !!!!!!!!!!!!! I say, pick off the POS before this POS does ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We sure have a lot of IDIOT judges in this country !!! What a PATHETIC joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. JohnVoter posted on 04/24/2014 09:39 AM
    It surprises me that this pathetic lump of Sh!t is even allowed in an admin area. We all remember from the RCMP how dangerous staplers are.

    the only place he should be in in jail
  6. Greg posted on 04/24/2014 10:01 AM
    Isn't this what everyone wanted? Cops under investigation working in an office role rather than on the streets or at home on a paid vacation?
    1. don was right posted on 04/24/2014 10:37 AM
      @Greg If you pumped 8 bullets into a guy on a streetcar would YOU still have even an office job if you were not a cop? And yes, I want to hear that the taser jockey is out collecting bottles for their deposits as well.
    2. alex posted on 04/24/2014 12:09 PM
      @Greg well. this is not how system suppose to work,there is something wrong with our system. they just have to put him on welfare and not giving him a cop salary.
      and yes as a big time tax payer, I want this guy to stay at home until his court date
      we don't want a murdered on the street
  7. Frankie posted on 04/24/2014 10:21 AM
    Thankfully there were lots of citizens that took video footage of this awful incident, otherwise I can just imagine what stories would have been invented.

    I also believe the excuse for tasering would have resulted in another BS story were it not for the videos.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 04/25/2014 10:26 AM
      @Frankie Very true
  8. Rafail Veli, Esq posted on 04/24/2014 11:37 AM
    Why is the TPS still paying him a salary? He's accused of second degree murder and is owed the benefit of the doubt until and if , convicted. However, it's a reflection of the inane negotiations with the police union that we have situations where accused officers are allowed to collect a paycheck on the public's dime for up to a year until the outcome of his trial.Is that fair to us, the public?
  9. Dean posted on 04/24/2014 11:44 AM
    Glad to see he's not being too severely punished for putting down a crazy man with a knife, aka DOING HIS JOB.
    1. Frankie posted on 04/24/2014 12:10 PM
      @Dean Shooting the guy 9 times while other cops don't perceive him as a threat (see them standing with their backs to him) doesn't quite qualify as "doing your job".
    2. alex posted on 04/24/2014 12:13 PM
      @Dean yes doing his job, in an empty bus, shooting 9 times to someone who is already dead
      GET REAL
  10. Dean posted on 04/24/2014 11:44 AM
    Glad to see he's not being too severely punished for putting down a crazy man with a knife, aka DOING HIS JOB.
    1. don was right posted on 04/24/2014 12:25 PM
      @Dean so there is a death penalty in Canada for waving your dick and a knife on a bus? what section of the criminal code is THAT under?
    2. Dean posted on 04/24/2014 01:06 PM
      @don was right That would be under Heading "Clearly this armed individual is irrational, better to end this situation before he hurts someone," subsection "If you don't want to be shot by police, don't brandish a weapon at the police."

      Also see Appendix "Grow up and drop the adolescent 'every authority figure is an enemy' attitude."
  11. listener posted on 04/24/2014 12:58 PM
    The main point is that no matter what happens now, citizens do not want any police officer on the force who pumped nine bullets into a disturbed young man with his hands up while standing alone on a streetcar, even if he did have a small knife in his hands. All 21 officers standing around were relaxed and officers reholstered their guns before Officer Fucillo fired the first shot, some 43 seconds after arriving on the scene.

    Under stress, it seems unlikely that the young man even heard words yelled at him to drop the knife. He asked to call his father.. He put his hands up and cautiously moved to the front of the streetcar, which seems reasonable. He had not harmed a single person and made no attempt to stop anyone from leaving the streetcar about three minutes before.

    The public absolutely will not put up with such police behaviour. This is a democracy without the death penalty. Extra-judicial killings are especially shocking and ocmpletely unjustified.
    1. Jack posted on 04/24/2014 01:08 PM
      @listener I feel safer knowing there are men like Forcillo on the force. I'd rather see a hundred Sammy Yatims dead BEFORE they hurt anyone than to see one innocent person wounded because a police officer said "Well, maybe the lunatic with a knife is harmless, let's see."
    2. dama posted on 04/24/2014 03:21 PM
      @Jack You wouldn't be saying that if your sister or brother was killed innocently by cops like Forcillo.. considering the scene was "contained" Sammy Yatims was ALONE in that bus.. unles you see otherwise..
    3. Jack posted on 04/24/2014 03:40 PM
      @dama You assume I'd prefer to see my brother's face on the news next to a body count? Not everyone is as irrational as that.
    4. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 04:25 PM
      @Jack I suggest you rethink that comment. They way Forcillo lost it, he could lose it on any innocent person just because they looked at him sideways. If Sammy was such a threat, why did the other cops have their weapons holstered? Will the next headline we read shot because it looked like he had a gun? Cops better begin realizing that no one is above the law anymore with the use of technology. We all saw the video, I can't get it out of my head. Five or more cops against one kid with a switchblade? It is called non violent crisis intervention.
    5. Sarah posted on 04/24/2014 04:55 PM
      @Suz58 Well, I'm glad you've received more extensive training in handling armed, mentally unstable individuals than the police have. You should offer your services so that they can call you in the next time they run into this sort of screwball, so you can give everyone a big hug and resolve everything forever!
    6. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 05:27 PM
      @Sarah As a matter of fact Sarah, that training is given to people that support individuals with developmental disabilities. Support workers do not carry guns, tazers or any other weapons for that matter. Many support workers do encounter people coming at them with objects and yes even knives. Not saying I could have done anything in the situation, but I am thinking a cop would have that training as well and be able to diffuse the situation without shooting to kill. And just a note, a hug doesn't always solve things, but it sounds like you could use one!
    7. justice posted on 04/24/2014 11:08 PM
      @Jack People like you should be locked in asylums.
      As for the killer cop, he should be serving the life sentence right now, and be Baba's girlfriend for the rest of his miserable pathetic life.
      But killer cops do not disturb me; people like Jack, who justify killing of children on the streets of Toronto, I fear those potential serial killers...
    8. dama posted on 04/25/2014 03:20 PM
      @Jack I was saying that if you see your brother laying death on the steps of the bus, and not just on the news .. death on the door steps.. , you would not be saying that..

      You would probably cried: "police brutally"...
    9. dama posted on 04/25/2014 03:23 PM
      @dama *dead
  12. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 04:11 PM
    If this is the way Chief Blair operates, I guess this is a good indication why Rob Ford won't be facing any charges.
    1. Sonny posted on 04/24/2014 04:28 PM
      @Suz58 Ford gets to draw a larger salary just like Forcillo does from the taxpayers no matter how great a job they are doing much to the despair of the family of the dead...
  13. Mark7 posted on 04/24/2014 04:32 PM
    1. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 07:49 PM
      @Mark7 You must be a friend of his, limited vocabulary.
    2. Mark7 posted on 04/24/2014 08:03 PM
      @Suz58 Yes I am, thank you. I control this board and ensure that all members support our great Leader.

      Rob Ford is our salvation, the man that will lead Toronto into the land of milk and honey. All that disagree will face eternal damnation.

      I have spoken, the almighty Mark 7...Karl Burgin will be here tomorrow when he can steal his employer's time and resources to respond.

    3. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 08:26 PM
      @Mark7 Yes Mark 7, Rob Ford may be your salvation, but to what? Sex, drugs and crime. Definitely a leader to look up to when you are avoiding consequences for your actions unlike Sammy Yatim. If he gets in again, I can guarantee, the people of Toronto are in for a wild ride and it won't be pretty. I would call it voters remorse!
    4. Impartial Observer posted on 04/24/2014 08:36 PM
      @Mark7 Karl will have lots to say - he always does. As for time available to him, he can still fix computers part time and rant simultaneously from the comfort of his attic apartmant outside of Toronto.
  14. Doug Ford posted on 04/24/2014 07:53 PM
    Rob asked that this cop continue to look like George Zimmerman, that way he'll be guaranteed to get away with murdering a black kid.

    Good going Rob...we support he front line cops especially when they kill the blacks. And Bill Blair...go screw yourself.

    God Bless Toronto, and make sure you vote right!
    1. Suz58 posted on 04/24/2014 08:18 PM
      @Doug Ford Doesn't matter, ford is scum just like these cops. Another spoiled kid that has no consequences for his actions. If he cared about our youth he would be setting a good example instead of the one he is. He tries to get through on the billions he is saving taxpayers, but let me tell you, his actions in the past few years are going to bite him in the ass and it will be left for someone else to clean up. Those billions are only on paper, which proves nothing. I know there will be more to come out as the Fords do not disappoint. He thinks he is friends with all these late night comedians. The sooner he realizes they are laughing at him and not with him the better off he will be. Tell me, have we ever been able to get the truth or an apology for Rob Ford? I think that says it all!
    2. don was right posted on 04/24/2014 09:58 PM
      @Doug Ford Listen carefully. Its starting. Today a few fire stations a few trucks and 80 fire fighters. Tomorrow a few Taj Mahal police stations. and taser jockies like Forcillo. Lets give Rob Ford More Years to clean house. Maywood California, and Youngtown Arizona come to mind.
  15. Karl Burgin posted on 04/25/2014 10:44 AM
    This is in response to fake MARK7 aka donnyp., SUZ58, and IMPARTIAL Observer (who also likes to keep changing his name depending on where the wind from his hot spiel blows)....

    First off, your friend 'MARK7' is a troll. He is like some sort of virus or trojan. Hiding behind other people's IDs to spew his foolish spiel to whoever will listen. I recommend that you don't respond to him- you will just feed his inflated ego.

    Suz58: please stop blaming EVERYTHING on Ford. It seems to be some sort of commonality between Ford haters. Its Ford's fault that Sammy Yatim got shot. It's Ford's fault that the officers who shot Sammy did the shooting. What next? It will be Ford's fault the Leafs won't make the playoffs next year?
    Here's a clue. If Ford is deserved of criticism, then vent your disdain then. Not before. And not when the topic virtually has nothing to do with the man.
    I think Wynne is scum. But you don't me or others working her name unnecessarily into every topic under the sun- just for the sake of it.

    To Mr. Impartial Observer: Sorry to burst your bubble. I've been really busy dealing with SQL databases for the last few days- so I've had little time to respond to those (like yourself) who miss me. Haven't had the time to fix any computers inside my attic lately.
    It's also nice to know, that you've got nothing in respect to this article. But you seem to have ample time to attack me. Even though I'm not the only one here that supports Ford. AND even though this topic is nothing to do with Ford, just like SUZ58, you seem to work him into the argument nevertheless.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 04/25/2014 10:52 AM
      @Karl Burgin SUZ58:
      Don't take my criticism too harshly. It's not meant as an attack on you.
    2. Suz58 posted on 04/25/2014 06:02 PM
      @Karl Burgin No offence taken Karl. I wasn't blaming anything on Ford regarding this case. I was just making comment on chief Blair. I really should not have brought Ford's name up. I guess my intent was; is Chief Blair doing his job? It was more of a comparison on how things are allowed to be silenced and swept under the carpet. As I have mentioned, double standards. If that was anyone else on the street that fired a shot at a teen, even one, would they be able to be suspended from their job with pay? Especially with the technology today, we all saw it on video. Too many questions on this case.
  16. Shyamla posted on 04/26/2014 09:44 AM
    With all due respect to Yatim's family. I must say they should put everything behind them as we know this COP is gonna walk. The drama of this first and the second degree charges was to mere calm public outrage. Forcillio if it was an error then accept the error of judgement and you will earn my respect
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