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Pope Francis has declared his two predecessors John XXIII and John Paul II saints in an unprecedented canonization ceremony made even more historic by the presence of retired Pope Benedict XVI
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Pope Francis has declared his two predecessors John XXIII and John Paul II saints in an unprecedented canonization ceremony made even more historic by the presence of retired Pope Benedict XVI.
   
Francis recited the saint-making formula in Latin, saying that after deliberating, consulting and praying for divine assistance ``we declare and define Blessed John XXIII and John Paul II be saints and we enrol them among the saints, decreeing that they are to be venerated as such by the whole church.''
   
Benedict was sitting off to the side with other cardinals in St. Peter's Square during the rite at the start of Sunday's Mass. He and Francis briefly greeted one another after Francis arrived.

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  1. Mark7 posted on 04/27/2014 09:02 AM
    Wow...I can now say that I've met a saint! Too bad I'm not a Catholic.
  2. frank posted on 04/27/2014 02:58 PM
    It's too bad that justice had no chance when John Paul II visited Toronto in 2001. Canada had always short-changed abuse victims, who had an ideal chance at justice on the cusp of this high-financial-stakes visit, as many claims were outstanding. While a recent civil claimant was awarded $2M for sexual abuse in the U.S., world-wide damages have averaged over $350,000 for some time. In Canada, with regulators, said to be heavily populated with catholics fighting off all but large commercial law firms, claimants have received paltry amounts, often under $20,000, a national disgrace. The larger law firms apparently did ok.
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/27/2014 04:05 PM
      @frank Google: Christian Brothers sex abuse scandals in Toronto. You'll find that most of the accused Brothers rotated between St. John's in Uxbridge and De La Salle in Toronto.

      Pope John Paul II was a Polish actor before becoming a priest. Some say he was gay and protected the paedophiles in Poland before going to Rome. There was a question why he was so involved in Youth Day...
  3. frank posted on 04/27/2014 05:47 PM
    Thanks Mark. For the church, it is all about the money. At that time Canada was a safe fund-raising haven with good efforts at work to stall lawsuits and protect the pope. It was really too bad for the many, many victims who deserved justice and all should have received it and would have received it before the Pope's plane landed had regulators not muffled justice efforts and confused victims into thinking they needed to be taken in by certain law firms. If they were so expert, why weren't they "at the airport" on this one and forcing settlements.

    At that time the media was also effectively muzzled as any allegations could be a basis for a lawsuit. Better caselaw has since developed allowing all public authorities to be questioned in the media, but sadly our media are now oppressed by stressed-out publishers and still remain more timid and less curious than they ought to be.

    Corruption continues with many tainted judicial appointments and much hidden caselaw. Osgoode Hall is the only court seat that houses a regulator, something other provinces would never permit. IN some ways, we are barely a democracy. We also lack transparency and accountability and have too many conflicted players with too many causes outside of their actual roles.

    In the church, orientation doesn't matter to public policy, by paedophilia is a paramount concern. All cases should have ended with Pope John II. No excuses, let alone sainthood.
  4. Ger posted on 04/27/2014 05:58 PM
    Who cares! Hes a human just like everyone else. Time to get back to reality. ..NEXT!
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Pope Francis has declared his two predecessors John XXIII and John Paul II saints in an unprecedented canonization ceremony made even more historic by the presence of retired Pope Benedict XVI.
   
Francis recited the saint-making formula in Latin, saying that after deliberating, consulting and praying for divine assistance ``we declare and define Blessed John XXIII and John Paul II be saints and we enrol them among the saints, decreeing that they are to be venerated as such by the whole church.''
   
Benedict was sitting off to the side with other cardinals in St. Peter's Square during the rite at the start of Sunday's Mass. He and Francis briefly greeted one another after Francis arrived.

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  1. Mark7 posted on 04/27/2014 09:02 AM
    Wow...I can now say that I've met a saint! Too bad I'm not a Catholic.
  2. frank posted on 04/27/2014 02:58 PM
    It's too bad that justice had no chance when John Paul II visited Toronto in 2001. Canada had always short-changed abuse victims, who had an ideal chance at justice on the cusp of this high-financial-stakes visit, as many claims were outstanding. While a recent civil claimant was awarded $2M for sexual abuse in the U.S., world-wide damages have averaged over $350,000 for some time. In Canada, with regulators, said to be heavily populated with catholics fighting off all but large commercial law firms, claimants have received paltry amounts, often under $20,000, a national disgrace. The larger law firms apparently did ok.
    1. Mark7 posted on 04/27/2014 04:05 PM
      @frank Google: Christian Brothers sex abuse scandals in Toronto. You'll find that most of the accused Brothers rotated between St. John's in Uxbridge and De La Salle in Toronto.

      Pope John Paul II was a Polish actor before becoming a priest. Some say he was gay and protected the paedophiles in Poland before going to Rome. There was a question why he was so involved in Youth Day...
  3. frank posted on 04/27/2014 05:47 PM
    Thanks Mark. For the church, it is all about the money. At that time Canada was a safe fund-raising haven with good efforts at work to stall lawsuits and protect the pope. It was really too bad for the many, many victims who deserved justice and all should have received it and would have received it before the Pope's plane landed had regulators not muffled justice efforts and confused victims into thinking they needed to be taken in by certain law firms. If they were so expert, why weren't they "at the airport" on this one and forcing settlements.

    At that time the media was also effectively muzzled as any allegations could be a basis for a lawsuit. Better caselaw has since developed allowing all public authorities to be questioned in the media, but sadly our media are now oppressed by stressed-out publishers and still remain more timid and less curious than they ought to be.

    Corruption continues with many tainted judicial appointments and much hidden caselaw. Osgoode Hall is the only court seat that houses a regulator, something other provinces would never permit. IN some ways, we are barely a democracy. We also lack transparency and accountability and have too many conflicted players with too many causes outside of their actual roles.

    In the church, orientation doesn't matter to public policy, by paedophilia is a paramount concern. All cases should have ended with Pope John II. No excuses, let alone sainthood.
  4. Ger posted on 04/27/2014 05:58 PM
    Who cares! Hes a human just like everyone else. Time to get back to reality. ..NEXT!
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