UPDATE: WATCH: Ontario election set for June 12

Legislature to be dissolved Friday afternoon

Premier Kathleen Wynne announces Ont. election
Photo: Katie Franzios/NEWSTALK 1010

Ontarians are headed to the polls next month.

Premier Kathleen Wynne will visit Lieutenant Governor David Onley at 2pm Friday to ask him to dissolve the legislature and trigger an election, likely June 12.

The minority Liberal's goose was cooked Friday morning when NDP leader Andrea Horwath revealed her party wouldn't support the budget presented by the government Thursday. Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak rejected the spending plan before having seen it.

Horwath pointed to what she sees as Liberal blunders and scandals as reasons to yank NDP support of the Liberals. She specifically mentioned the gas plant scandal and high CEO salaries as reasons why voters should have an opportunity to elect a new government.

Horwath calls the budget a "mad dash" to escape scandals surrounding the cancellation of gas plants and the Ornge air ambulance service by promising voters "the stars and the moon."

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  1. john posted on 05/02/2014 10:27 AM
    alright ladies and gentlemen time to whip these commies a new asshole !!!!!!! time to get rid of them .
  2. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 10:28 AM
    Bittersweet news....
    Finally we're going to have an election- but instead of an illegitimate corrupt Lieberal government, we'd have instead a legitimate corrupt Lieberal government. All because the stupid voters of Toronto cannot extract head from ass.
    1. Sonny posted on 05/02/2014 10:30 AM
      @Karl Burgin Based on the polls the seat count would be another minority gov't!
    2. tanjo posted on 05/02/2014 01:01 PM
      @Karl Burgin I can't see the Liberals getting enough votes to form a government. Personally I am hoping for a PC minority, with NDP in second.

      I like Wynne, but there is too much entitlement in the Liberal party. They need to do a major housecleaning and that won't happen until they get soundly defeated.

      At the same time, Hudak is just too impulsive for me. He needs some moderation. Maybe it comes with more central-leaning PC members, but I am not willing to count on it. Maybe for a 2nd term, but not right now.

      An intriguing possibility would be a NDP Minority with PC in 2nd. I would love to see the Horwath-Hudak dynamic.
    3. LINDA posted on 05/02/2014 02:30 PM
      @tanjo Horvath-Hudak would be an interesting combination.
      Better than a corrupt Liberal Government!
  3. arthur posted on 05/02/2014 10:44 AM
    YES! bring it.
    we finally might have a chance to turf Hudak and the far right wing and his repressive policies ONCE AND FOR EVER.
    bring it on!
    1. john posted on 05/02/2014 11:08 AM
      @arthur ir u wanna turf hudak we need to turf Wynne first the liberals are useless .
    2. tanjo posted on 05/02/2014 01:03 PM
      @arthur From my opinion, turfing Hudak will improve the PC chances.
    3. arthur posted on 05/02/2014 01:13 PM
      @tanjo that would put the "P" in PC to good use then. because this current bunch of flunkies definitely are not progressive.
      the only way conservatives stand a chance in Ontario for any period of time is move to the centre. because even if they were to win it would be short lived. with a leash around their neck in a minority they're on their own. disadvantage conservatives have is libs/ndp won't work with them where as libs/ndp will work together at times. just the reality in really for the most part a liberal part of the country
    4. john posted on 05/02/2014 01:22 PM
      @tanjo i take it u never herd of the saying never judge a book by it,s cover . point is he might not look like it but it dos not mean he has more bark then bite .
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 01:50 PM
      @tanjo Maybe there's simply no more time to prepare or maneuver the ranks.

      If likability is the only thing going against why people won't vote for Hudak, we should be thanking our lucky stars.
    6. AdrianeT posted on 05/03/2014 08:59 AM
      @tanjo Well they are not going to replace Hudak any time soon so he is the Leader for now...sometimes you have to make the best of what you are dealt...if the Conservatives would have gotten in last time the Province would be in much better shape..I'm sick that Sherman left the Party and Klees is not running again...WAKE UP!!!...time for a sea change my friends...
      Hudak has a lot of good people behind him...I beg you..give them a chance..
  4. manuel posted on 05/02/2014 10:52 AM
    here's my advise to conservatives if they ever want to gain power in Ontario. throw your current leader under the bus and elect someone closer to the centre. far right wing ideology won't get it done here. never has and never will
    1. Sonny posted on 05/02/2014 11:22 AM
      @manuel Hudak was just on and dodged the point about him being Harris 2.0
      He will be hosting on Sunday at 1pm if you have any questions.
  5. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 11:24 AM
    Alright Ontario, we have three choices:

    1) Re-elect the Liberals. This will result in them continuing to make worse and worse economic decisions, eventually driving business out of Ontario altogether and turning us into Detroit on a provincial scale.

    2) Elect the NDP. This choice is functionally the same as the first one, but will bring us to ruin a little bit faster.

    3) Elect the Conservatives. This choice will result in much-needed cuts to the public sector, reforms to the labour market, and more of our hard-earned paychecks staying in our own pockets to take care of our own families.

    The choice is clear: Hudak for Premier!
    1. Bob posted on 05/02/2014 12:04 PM
      @Jack put me down for choice 1)
      choice 3) will be Detroit part two.
      unfettered capitalism greed/outsourcing for cheap labour and unregulated banking system/mortgages made that city a wasteland of despair for families. that's the type of ideology that 6 greedy bankers had that almost brought down the whole nation not just Detroit. let's hope we learned some lessons from all that
    2. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 12:12 PM
      @Bob Ontario ain't much into learning lessons. They voted in the fibs twice, and maybe a third time this time around.

      Yep, lesson-learning ain't exactly our forte, apparently. But, I can always hope.
    3. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 12:25 PM
      @Bob You really do refuse to learn, don't you? I'm getting the distinct feeling that you work for a public sector union, or else there's no way you'd be so obtuse to the fact that UNIONS KILLED DETROIT.

      Everything they asked for, they got. Every raise, every concession, every directive to restrict competition, no matter how unsustainable, they got it. In the end, none of the industries who were creating jobs in Detroit were able to turn a profit, and they left.

      But go ahead, enlighten me: What do YOU think is going to happen when the Liberal governments constant bowing and scraping to union leaders drives business out of Ontario? Do you expect money to appear from thin air, or perhaps start growing on small shrubs next to the abandoned roads?
    4. john posted on 05/02/2014 01:34 PM
      @Bob choice 1 will put in Detroit

      choice 2 will worse then choice 1

      choice 3 at lest we will have some money . in our pockets cause lets get real here ri have not had money in my pocket for a long time now .
    5. G Man posted on 05/02/2014 03:00 PM
      @Bob Hope you and your family like moving to Alberta to find work, 'cause there won't be any businesses expanding here under the Liberals.
    6. arthur posted on 05/02/2014 03:19 PM
      @Jack you know sht Jack.
      inner city ghettos, out of control crime and corruption, guns/gangs, no jobs. a society with no health care for it's citizens. the richest country on earth.
      top that with bush era financial meltdown you got Detroit.
      we won't let that happen here. we are better than them.
    7. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 03:50 PM
      @arthur You're correct, as far as not letting Ontario go down that route. To avoid Detroit's fate, we need to elect the only party who will stand up to the unions: The Conservatives.
    8. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 04:37 PM
      @Jack As of right now, the Conservatives are the only viable option.
      But if Toronto cannot vote for Cons due to stubbornness, then please vote for the Green Party. They cannot possibly do any worse than the Liberals.
    9. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 04:40 PM
      @Karl Burgin At least pot would be legalized in a hurry.
    10. Mark7 posted on 05/03/2014 10:21 AM
      @arthur So like you are so easily duped. America is not "the richest country on earth". America is the country that borrows money and pays its bills with extra money prionted from the Federal Reserve. It in fact is the country who BORROWS the most, thus not the richest. US is not even close!

      Watch this 7 hour special to enlighten and educate yourself on how the US monetary system works. I eagerly hope you do watch this very insightful program.
  6. HP posted on 05/02/2014 11:46 AM
    This is the first election since I was old enough to vote that I will not be voting. I encourage all residents of Ontario to boycott this election...send a message to the politicians that we're not pawns and that democracy does not mean that we follow a leader's options. Our MPP's must be our voice and not toe the party line.

    This budget was tailor made for the NDP, Horwath's rejection is a slap in the face to all, regardless of party affiliation.

    So I encourage all to join me and boycott the election...sent a message to all parties that we won't put up with this crap. Those that do want to go to the polls, decline your ballot, they keep track of this, not spoiled ballots.

    We need to return to a democracy.
    1. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 11:50 AM
      @HP I see wut u did thar.

      You want us to not vote, so the liberals remain in power, to continue with their unholy agenda.

      I ain't falling for that.. We need to vote the libs out.
    2. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 12:27 PM
      @HP The best way to return to democracy is to elect a government who will listen to the taxpayers, rather than sacrifice us to union demands on a blood-soaked altar.

      Vote Conservative. It's Ontario's only chance to avoid total economic ruin.
    3. john posted on 05/02/2014 12:33 PM
      @Angry Bill if we wanna send them a message we have to put ALL votes into one party . that's how u send one .
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 01:48 PM
      @Angry Bill I will do you one better. Remove the Liberals as an option to vote altogether.
      That should cause mass confusion amongst the sheeple voters.
    5. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:11 PM
      @HP How does that send a message....all abstaining does is concentrate the vote so that a very few can control the many....Ontario and Toronto have already shown they are on the wobbly edge of dismantling Democracy all together. We have a premier installed by 1100 Liberal cronies and a popular sitting Mayor has been side-stepped in favour of a Liberal hack chosen with less than 44 votes...If The People do not exercise their rights, they will eventually lose them.
    6. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:13 PM
      @Angry Bill I totally agree....THAT will send a message....if you simply allow the political junkies to control the outcome you really do get the Gover*ment you deserve...
    7. Mark7 posted on 05/03/2014 10:24 AM
      @Karl Burgin That would cause mass confusion for them on where to find their next field of grass, Karl. Baaaaa
  7. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 11:47 AM
    I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I honestly thought Horwath would once again prop up this corrupt regime.

    My only fear now is, there are a sufficient number of brain-damaged sheep out there who will continue to vote for this corrupt, inept, self-serving government and keep them in power.

    Listen, I don't like Hudak either. Who does. But I would choose him every single time over a corrupt government that has shown countless times that they have absolutely no issues against throwing away billions of dollars on nothing at all, if they think it might win them a seat or 2.

    Those are my dollars, folks. And those are your dollars, too. Billions of them. Gone, as if they never existed. With absolutely nothing to show for them, other than a couple of liberal seats.

    The liberals have come right out and said they'd like to send you home every month with even LESS money than they're leaving you with right now, as little as that is. Seriously, who the hell is okay with that? Even if they HAD a valid point, which they don't, would you really trust them with even more of your money, with their track record? Really? If your answer is "yes" to any of these questions, you need to immediately purchase a self-administered lobotomy kit and use it, and then neuter yourself so you don't reproduce.
    1. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 12:27 PM
      @Angry Bill We may not always agree, but we've reached the same conclusion in different ways. The choice is clear: Hudak for Premier!
    2. tanjo posted on 05/02/2014 01:10 PM
      @Angry Bill The billion covers the whole gas plant cancellation. All three parties were going to cancel the gas plant, so stop about the billion dollars before you start sounding like Rob Ford.

      What bothers me is the extra cash they paid out to make it go away "quietly" (epic fail). Does anyone know how much EXTRA the Liberals paid out for this?

      The big thing about the Liberals isn't what they did. It's what they DIDN'T do. No oversight. They figured they could just coast along, show up for the ribbon-cuttings and everything would look after itself. To me, THAT is why they need to go.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 01:45 PM
      @tanjo To the point that all three parties would have cancelled the powerplants....

      I would counter that I doubt the Cons or even the NDP, wouldn't have ignored the original cries to put them there to begin with.
      That phrase comes off as an excuse that seems to give the Libs a pass for the gas plant debacle
      Even if it is the case the other parties MAY (and thats a big if) would have done the same, that still doesn't account for all the other screw-ups, and subsequent cover-ups- just to keep their asses out of the fire.

      The billion dollars is legitimate. You, me, Bill and others here may have heard the same thing over and over like a broken record. The sadly surprising fact however, is that most people outside of this circle know little-to-nothing about the gas plant scandal, the subsequent cover ups, or half of the other brain dead projects the Liberals have been in charge of.
    4. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 02:01 PM
      @tanjo Karl beat me to it. I was going to say something similar. The conservatives most likely wouldn't have put the gas plants there in the first place, and so wouldn't have had to cancel them. That's not sounding like Ford, that's sounding like someone logical. Even if they did cancel, it would have been after the election, and at a time when such cancellation would have been VERY much cheaper. Plus, the conservatives would not have had the cover up scandal, deleting emails, or been investigated for misleading the public. How many millions extra is THAT costing?

      So no. Any way you slice it, ANY other party getting in would have been far, far cheaper. And that's just the gas plant scandal. We're not even mentioning the long list of other things the liberals are guilty of.
    5. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 04:19 PM
      @tanjo The Auditor determined that the OPA had a legal opinion in hand in early 2010 saying that the OPA had strong contractual rights to get out of the TCE contract without ratepayers getting stung with a severe penalty. Despite this, the Auditor determined that the Liberals bound ratepayers to a massive give-away. The Liberals in attempting to cling to power at all costs, used Tax Payer's money to buy their votes in the hopes that should they obtain a Majority, the whole issue would be swept under the rug. Wynne from all accounts signed off on the documents cancelling the gas plants. This would not have happened under the NDP or the Conservatives Government.
    6. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 04:26 PM
      @Karl Burgin Right...they were trying to force the gas plant down the throats of long term residents in Olde Oakville...they pay upwards of $40,000 per year in property tax....there was no way they were about to let the Government roll over them without as colossal fight. I can't believe any Government would be so arrogant and out of touch.
  8. arthur posted on 05/02/2014 12:42 PM
    the people that will enjoy sitting in traffic congestion and waiting for buses for the next 25 years you only have one choice. Vote conservative!
    because we all know eff all will get done under these people. the conservatives think transit is free to build and no one will have to pay for it
  9. Bobcat posted on 05/02/2014 01:18 PM
    I urge ALL you Hudak supporters to read the book
    "What's the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America" to understand why so many average, blue collar Americans decided to vote against their own economic and political interests and support the party of the 1%, the Republicans.
    You need to know that you are being played in the exact same way! Tim Hudak is following a neo-conservative script that has been going on for well over a decade. And it is YOU, dear people, who are getting taken advantage of. While you blather on about the Liberals, they are planning to decimate good wages and good jobs, all to enrich themselves and the corporations they serve. It's all about to come to Ontario if you vote for that contemptuous idiot.
    Don't say you weren't warned...
    1. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 01:29 PM
      @Bobcat The Liberals will destroy jobs in this province by making it impossible for businesses to operate, between constant fee hikes, restrictive regulations, and giving in to every union's every unsustainable desire.

      The Conservatives, on the other hand, will make it easier and more profitable for businesses to stay and operate and create jobs in Ontario. Furthermore, by reducing the burden of our bloated public sector and taking actions to reduce union strong-arm tactics, they will increase the purchasing power of every dollar we earn.
    2. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 01:53 PM
      @Bobcat We're not Hudak supporters. We're liberal non-supporters. You see, we're smart enough to take a chance on someone who actually HASN'T fekked up this province, versus people who actually HAVE.

      No sane person can continue to support a regime that has done to us what the Ontario liberals have. Unless those people are the types who are at the trough and actually benefit from the rest of Ontario being screwed. Like teachers unions, etc.
    3. dama posted on 05/02/2014 02:14 PM
      @Angry Bill "No sane person can continue to support a regime...."

      I wouldn't be surprise if the Liberal wins another minority,, sane people are glutton for punishment, thry should take this opportunity to turf the Liberal.

      The PC or NDP will not be any worst and I don't either party
      will not squander billions of dollars away.... for Ontario is broke..

      I agree.. teachers and union will still vote for Liberal..
    4. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:21 PM
      @Jack Whatever made Wynne think that Ontarions would agree to anything she came up (even if it was the best idea in the World) let alone a bunch of draconian taxes is well beyond me. We are already giving half of our gross pay away to all levels of Gover*ment (some more than half)...if Wynne wants to declare Ontario a Communist State at least be honest about it.
    5. Frankie posted on 05/02/2014 02:34 PM
      @Bobcat You're fear-mongering which is a typical tactic used by those who don't have constructive criticism.

      He is not nearly as fiscally conservative as the Republicans.
      The Liberals have so far doubled Ontario's debt and this budget would triple it. Where do you think the money comes from to pay for it, the trees?

      Simple economics - money always starts with business, they buy goods and services, they hire employees, and their job is to make a profit. They pay taxes as do their employees. Those employees pay more taxes when they buy goods and services personally, etc.

      It all starts with business so, if you have a hate-on for them, you have a hate on for the seed that fuels our province.

      Your comments about conservatives serving corporations is sheer nonsense. It's actually the Liberals that are closest to business. Just look at political donations for proof.
    6. Mark7 posted on 05/03/2014 10:26 AM
      @Bobcat Everything you just stated here is what the criminal Fiberals have already done. Wake up!
  10. Ernie posted on 05/02/2014 01:43 PM
    Its about fucking time you caught up with the program!
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 01:47 PM
      @Ernie Yeah, true. but too little, too late.

      I had much respect for Horwath- before she decided to bend over forward, and prop up the Liberals.
    2. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 04:29 PM
      @Karl Burgin Sorry...we were the ones who voted this losers in...I mean The People of should be thanking Ms. Horwath for undoing our big mistake.
    3. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 04:34 PM
      @AdrianeT I would have thanked her if she'd done it the first time. But she consistently propped up the liberals, until now.
  11. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:05 PM
    I am very impressed by Andrea Horwath....she comes across as intelligent and thoughtful as well as a very strong Leader....she deserves to be rewarded for freeing The People of Ontario from the bounds of the corrupt, tired, Wynne Gover*ment...thank you Andrea for lot allowing yourself to be duped by shiny bobbles.
    1. Ernie posted on 05/02/2014 02:56 PM
      @AdrianeT Adriane
      Your congratulating her on how intelligent she is for doing this a year late?

      Your even slower than she is!
    2. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 03:12 PM
      @Ernie First of all it was The People of Ontario that put the Liberals back in power, not Andrea Horwath...did you really think it would have been prudent for her to pull the plug on the first round when the Unions were asking her to wait a little time to see what might unfold?...we are talking about politics..not being nice in the playground....have you ever seen Horwath in the Legislature...she is poised, knowledgeable, passionate and articulate. She's smart whether you agree with her politics (and I am voting Conservative for the record) and she will take major hits if her Party loses ground in this next election. Late or not, I am giving credit where it is due. Would you like to wait for another year, which is what would happen had Andrea Horwath not pulled the plug today. It is not up to the Opposition to control who gets to hold power in the is up to the voters...WE put those losers back in power, not her.
    3. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 04:33 PM
      @AdrianeT We're not blaming her for putting them there. We're blaming her for keeping them there.

      But you do make a good point that at least Horwath propping up the liberals gave them more rope to hang themselves with.
  12. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:05 PM
    I am very impressed by Andrea Horwath....she comes across as intelligent and thoughtful as well as a very strong Leader....she deserves to be rewarded for freeing The People of Ontario from the bounds of the corrupt, tired, Wynne Gover*ment...thank you Andrea for lot allowing yourself to be duped by shiny bobbles.
    1. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 02:19 PM
      @AdrianeT You forgot to say "like last time".
    2. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:23 PM
      @Angry Bill Yeah Sorry....I don't now how that posted twice...I don't think there is any way to delete.
    3. Frankie posted on 05/02/2014 02:26 PM
      @AdrianeT Horvath's NDP have been complicit in the fiscal destruction of this province as well as the outright "theft" of taxpayer funds by propping up the Liberals.
    4. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 02:31 PM
      @AdrianeT Oh, and speaking of "shiny baubles"..

      Anyone else enjoying their 15% reduction on auto insurance premiums over what you were paying 1 or even 2 years ago?

      Yeah. Me neither.
    5. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:33 PM
      @Frankie I know...I've been watching this soap opera judiciously on a daily basis...I was on pins and needle wondering if Andrea Horwath would finally pull the plug...can you imagine...Wynne as premier and Olivia Chow as Mayor....I was born in Toronto General Hospital 65 years ago and I would leave the Province if that happened...along with all the businesses.
    6. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 02:36 PM
      @AdrianeT That's ok, AdrianeT.. I wasn't referring to your double post, this site does that sometimes. I was referring to your statement about Horwath not being distracted by shiny baubles.
    7. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 03:29 PM
      @Frankie Excuse me Horwath didn't vote the loser Liberals back in...the voters is 90 million dollars to run an election...would you have had her pull the plug right away even as the Unions (you know the very people who paid for her campaign) were asking her to delay for awhile. Most of the damage was done under McGuilty anyway....maybe Horwath did us a favour...because I don't want to think what would have happened if the Taxpayers did not get a good look at the Wynne Communistis and not get a good whiff of where they are coming from...anyway, if not for Horwath we would be waiting at least another year to go to the smart this time Ontario...
    8. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 04:40 PM
      @Angry Bill I'm enjoying my 0.000000000000001% insurance rate reduction. I can now use my savings to go towards my hike in hydro bills
  13. Frankie posted on 05/02/2014 02:23 PM
    Today's Toronto Star Thomas Walkom's headline says Liberals finally got the budget right. I re-read it several times, took both a breathalyzer and a drug test (both negative) and the headline was the same.

    IMO he might be buying from the same crack dealer a certain mayor is supposedly frequenting.

    I would like to see every a**hole that thinks this budget is good be forced to run their business this way, with no bailout when they go bankrupt.

    Young people who think this is a good idea need to realize they'll be the ones paying the lion's share of this disaster.

    I really hope Hudak tempers himself during the election campaign and in office should he win. He has a golden opportunity to right this sinking ship.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 04:42 PM
      @Frankie the first 3 lines.
      Of course the Star would be happy with it. Wouldn't expect anything else
  14. Jack posted on 05/02/2014 02:30 PM
    Oh surprise, surprise! Wynne is trying to get the election called for the end of the school year, when the teacher's union can strong-arm it's members into working for her campaign. We cannot let the unethical public sector unions short-circuit democracy again. We need to step up, say "Enough is enough," and throw our support behind the Conservatives and Working Canadians.

    For those who don't know, Working Canadians are a group working to expose how much power unions have over our lives, and how much they are abusing and absolutely do not deserve that power. You can find them on Facebook and Twitter, and their website.

    While we're at it, writing to Lieutenant Governor David Onley to ask him to hold the election while school is still in session would be a good idea as well, to ensure a level playing field.
    1. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:37 PM
      @Jack And it looks like the Wynne Gover*ment may have set up irrevocable trust funds to syphon money off to the Working Canadians....we don't know half of what was going on in the corrupt, tired, arrogant McWynty Gover*ment...I think there are still a lot of skeletons coming out of the closets.
    2. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 02:38 PM
      @Jack Sorry I meant to say Working Families...
    3. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 02:41 PM
      @Jack That really scares me. This was Wynne's plan all along, of course... Wait until summer when all the teachers are available, and normal people are still at work. Whatever else you might legitimately call her, she is certainly smart. It might even work, too. THAT is what scares me.
  15. Mark7 posted on 05/02/2014 02:49 PM
    Thank you Andrea for finally growing a brain. Now if only Toronto voters could get one.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 05/02/2014 04:45 PM
      @Mark7 The best solution would be to remove the Liberals as an option for voting. Just to be sure you don't get the herd of S&M crazies auto-voting for the Liberals
  16. Ernie posted on 05/02/2014 02:54 PM
    Wynne needs to hire back that IT guru that knows how to wipe out hard drives.

    She is done and she needs to vacate the office!
    1. Frankie posted on 05/02/2014 03:10 PM
      @Ernie She should go for a televised jog, not let the door hit her in the ass on the way out, and keep running until she leaves the Ontario border.

      A better idea would be to stage a group run of the Liberals and have them all follow her out of the province. They could all go to Harvard and teach a class on how to con citizens to vote for you despite "stealing" from them, lying incessantly, and mismanaging the economy to historic depths.

      We may officially be a banana republic; that's fodder for the late night talk show hosts.
    2. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 03:14 PM
      @Ernie She needs to bring them back from British Columbia where they from all accounts working for Christie Clark.
  17. Me posted on 05/02/2014 02:57 PM
    I honestly don't know for whom to vote for. They are all the same. One just have a better gift to gab over the other.
    I think we need a revolution, not another election.
    1. AdrianeT posted on 05/02/2014 04:31 PM
      @Me Here's a hint...don't vote for the corrupt, criminal, tired, arrogant Liberals...there is no one else like them in the World.
    2. Me posted on 05/02/2014 07:30 PM
      @AdrianeT Ha..ha.. (I'm NOT really laughing). Seriously, I am talking with my husband as to who should we vote foe , and you know what? We still can't decide.
      We definitely don't want liberals but... the rest of them steal something from someone else!
      They ALL PROMISE the "Moon', but's all talk!
      We have a handicapped child and.... it's nothing I did wrong! It happened to be and had I known ...I would have made a different decision, but I didn't know, and now... the gas is going up, the hydro is up, the gasoline is up, and we are lost as what to do!
      I wish I could go back in time but I can't.
      All those politicians sell shit. hence....I don't want to vote at all, because what's the use???
      We replace one ass----le for another!
      HELP please?
      Thank you for reading this my post :-)
    3. Angry Bill posted on 05/03/2014 01:35 AM
      @Me It sounds like you guys are going through a rough time, and I am sorry to hear that. In that respect, you are probably correct. None of the parties would do anything for your individual case. Because it just isn't a political cause.

      The BEST you can maybe hope for is that you vote the Canadian way.. Canadians vote people OUT of office, not in. So that would be voting for whoever gets the liberals out. And hopefully, just maybe, if the conservatives get in they will put the brakes on Wynne's proposed money guzzling machine. That would leave you more money in your pocket than the liberals would have left there.
    4. AdrianeT posted on 05/03/2014 09:06 AM
      @Me I too am sorry for your troubles...there is no's up to The People to keep a close watch on what is going on from day to day in the Legislature...the cable networks seem to be going out of their way to skew the message...I am still trying to figure out why we foot the bill for TVO...what is the purpose of a State owned broadcaster when the no longer even broadcast the Hearings and only air Question Period at 3:30 in the morning...It is paid for through the Ministry of Education and I personally see it as just a waste of Taxpyer's money.
  18. Ken posted on 05/02/2014 03:09 PM
    Wynne Bag!

    Keep your crooked corrupt hands away from my pockets!
  19. Mike posted on 05/02/2014 03:12 PM
    we need a strong mandate to get good transit built. that's my 1st priority. effects me everyday
    I don't want bullsht pie in the sky plans that others will pay. i want a responsible plan and who gives that to me will get my vote
    1. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 04:07 PM
      @Mike The Liberal government and the unions who keep supporting them don't know the meaning of the word "responsibility," and the NDP philosophy regards taking responsibility for your own actions as downright evil.

      If you want responsibility, your options are to vote Conservative or start living off the grid in a cabin somewhere.
    2. Mike posted on 05/02/2014 04:50 PM
      @Dean did you read my post? i want transit NOW ....and so do many others. i want someone to tell how it's going to get paid and so far i would say only the liberals are being close to responsible on how to pay.
      no pie in sky bullsht about i have a plan trust me just vote for me.
      then we're back to Rob Ford bullsht
    3. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 05:02 PM
      @Mike I'm sorry, how is "We'll pay for transit by going billions of dollars further into debt, and let future generations of Ontarians deal with the mess" a responsible plan for transit?

      You want transit RIGHT NOW? Tough. There's an old saying: "Do you want it done right, or do you want it done fast?" Grow up, drop this instant-gratification nonsense you're clinging to, and for God's sake don't give your vote to the "We guarantee financial ruin" Liberals.
  20. sam posted on 05/02/2014 03:57 PM
    hey Tim no pressure dude but don't eff this up this is your last kick at the can.
    if you feel like saying it's a good idea to outsource to convicts in jail public park maintenance and save money not paying union members. dude don't go there haha....
  21. Mark posted on 05/02/2014 04:15 PM
    Maybe few love Hudak but who cares about that ?? These thieving librano turds need to go before us citizens are literally carrying teachers around on quilted platforms.

    Problem is the damage done to this province by these F-ing liberals will be difficult if not impossible to repair.
  22. Contemplate This posted on 05/02/2014 04:32 PM
    The NDP is about to be decimated by these clever manoeuvres.
    How can they pretend to not like most of what was in the budget proposals?
    NDP has always meant "No Damn Platform" and nothing has changed in that regard.

    The Tea Party Cons and their incredibly weak leader can do no better than a minority government and that will happen only if they attract a better percentage of the women's vote. So long as Hudak rails against all-day kindergarten that critical vote will still be absent. Remember two basic things, Tim: There are more women of voting age than men and a greater percentage of women exercise their voting right.

    The choice has been clarified.
    The likelihood is that the Wynne Liberals will win (probably another minority).
    1. Angry Bill posted on 05/02/2014 04:46 PM
      @Contemplate This You spelled "all-day baby sitting" wrong.
    2. Contemplate This posted on 05/02/2014 05:01 PM
      @Angry Bill Don't misconstrue.

      I. too, disagree with all-day kindergarten. In fact, when I was a school board trustee in the 80's I successfully led the fight in our Board against Alternate Full Day Kindergarten.

      However, neither you nor I are women - my point is that Hudak's continued rant against it will guarantee a great percentage of women voting for one of the other Parties.
    3. Angry Bill posted on 05/03/2014 01:15 AM
      @Contemplate This I think you're right. It's too convenient for them to have a full day of free baby sitting. They don't realize that full day baby sitting is costing us a billion dollars a year, though. That's like one full gas plant scandal every year.

  23. Frankie posted on 05/02/2014 04:35 PM
    The Liberals shouldn't be allowed to return to power at least until they return the $ 1 Billions they "stole"
  24. Alex posted on 05/02/2014 05:23 PM
    When Tim Hudak showed an interest in 'right to work' legislation, that was the determining factor for this upcoming election.
    He lost right there.

    So called 'Right to Work' has been in America for some time and it has only made the rich richer and the poor poorer.
    1. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 05:52 PM
      @Alex If working in a union environment was as great as you want us to believe, then unionization in the private sector wouldn't be on the decline. And, more importantly, union mouthpieces like you wouldn't be so scared every time Right To Work gets mentioned.

      The only reason that unions fight so hard against Right To Work is because they know that workers will happily leave the union in droves as soon as they have the freedom to do so. This will leave the unions with nothing but their bitterest, least competent, and most rabid supporters to pay dues. Public opinion of them will (somehow) become even worse than it is, and finally unions will be abolished and those people will have to find real, honest work for the first time in their lives.

      Right To Work is good for hard-working Ontarians, bad for union leaders and the TTC fare collector asleep in his booth. Who would you rather support?
    2. Alex posted on 05/02/2014 06:21 PM
      @Dean Thanks for your worn out song and dance Dean.
      Union is a word that exists everywhere.
      A faternity is a union. The Chamber of Commerce is a union, a corporation is a union, In a nutshell it is just 'strength in numbers, no different that every other part of this globe.
      The United States was a union of thirteen former British colonies and that makes you the threatened King who is afraid of losing exclusive control.
    3. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 06:46 PM
      @Alex And YOU are the guy who starts attacking people's choice of vocabulary because you've run out of ways to contribute meaningfully to the conversation.

      For your benefit: It's obvious that I was speaking about labour unions, the context is crystal-clear and barely anybody refers to those other groups as "unions" in conversation.
    4. Alex posted on 05/02/2014 07:17 PM
      @Dean Union = strength in number.
      And that is the fact.
      It is not a dirty word when you want it to work your way but it is when you feel threatened by it.

      Unions are everywhere, Government, business, schools and education, etc. etc.

      Buy the way...what fraternity were you a member of in business school and did you use your secret handshake to get your job?
    5. Dean posted on 05/02/2014 07:31 PM
      @Alex Actually, I took out a loan to go to college and washed dishes to help pay it off while I was there. I went for computer programming, not business, and spent my last year working in the software research lab at the school itself. As for my first job out of college, an employment agency saw my resume online; I think they saw it on TalentEgg, but it could easily have been Monster.

      As for when "union" becomes a dirty word, take your pick:

      When teachers decide that the union's bankroll is more important than their responsibility to educate, and turn children into political pawns?

      When garbagemen cover a city's streets with trash to bake in the July sun, creating a breeding ground for vermin and disease?

      When fewer than 1000 bus drivers decide that the best way to get the raise they want is to leave 40,000 people stranded for four long winter months, leaving them without any reliable or affordable way to get to work, school, the hospital, or to see their families?

      When ANY public sector union decides that the economics of supply and demand don't apply to them, and begin treating hard-working taxpayers like never-ending money trees?

      I could go on, but you get the point. Labour unions are unsustainable, illogical, and unacceptable. The sooner we abolish them, the better. This is why I support Working Canadians, and this is why I support the Conservatives.
    6. Alex posted on 05/02/2014 08:05 PM
      @Dean You don't support working Canadians. That is a euphamism that business has created.
      Walmart is a great example of business that operates without employee's having a say in their workplace.

      You should be more correctly called What works for the wealthy business leaders.
    7. Alex posted on 05/02/2014 08:22 PM
      @Alex Here is what the thesaurus contributes for Union:

      Confederation, association, affiliation, alliance, league, partnership, corporation, fraternity.

      Sound familiar? They are all around you and I am sure they work for your interests. But behold the same 'strength in number's is sued by someone else and you feel threatened.

      Suck it up buttercup.
    8. Angry Bill posted on 05/03/2014 01:23 AM
      @Alex By gawd, you're right. Those perfidious unions are everywhere! Even in biology!

      "When the union of two gametes occurs, a zygote is formed".
    9. Alex posted on 05/03/2014 06:32 AM
      @Angry Bill Whether you are joking or not it is true.

      People like Dean want to pretend that outside of labour unions there is no such a beast.
      The whole world is made up from unions, special interest groups etc. etc. and business of every size are deeply involved in their own unions, or special interest groups, or associations etc. to create power in numbers.

      Pretending anything else just makes those groups look like idiots.
  25. Lisa posted on 05/02/2014 06:43 PM
    This election is the best news I've heard in weeks. Every time I picture the Wynne-bag leaving Queen's Park and the legislature opening up with a big Blue majority, I just keep hearing the Peanuts theme and I have to resist the urge to do the Snoopy dance!
    1. fran posted on 05/02/2014 08:36 PM
      @Lisa MIKE HARRIS please help
    2. Mark7 posted on 05/03/2014 10:13 AM
      @fran Really? Surely you posted this in jest.
  26. Mark7 posted on 05/02/2014 07:38 PM
    Join the growing number that will BOYCOTT this election. Tell the politicians that we are mad and won't take it anymore!!!