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Ford brothers accused of mixing their political jobs with a private company

Reports say the Ford brothers intervened on behalf of Apollo Health and Beauty Care

There are allegations Mayor Rob Ford and his brother, Councillor Doug Ford, intervened with staff at city hall on behalf of a company that buys product from the Ford family business, Deco Labels.

It is alleged that the brothers failed to inform city staff of this commercial relationship.

The Globe and Mail reports this transpired in 2010, just after the Fords were elected. 

The intervention was on behalf of Apollo Health and Beauty Care. 

It was trying to secure a generous property tax grant from the city but City Manager Joe Pennachetti refused.

What the Globe found under the Freedom of Information Act was a cache of e-mails, letters, and memos showing "a pattern of intervention by the Fords" on Apollo's behalf that extended to "a variety of municipal issues, from stop-sign designations to building permits."

City Manager Pennachetti and five other senior civil servants told the Globe they had no idea of a commercial relationship between Apollo and the Ford owned Deco Labels and Tags.

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  1. Doug Ford posted on 05/12/2014 07:31 AM
    Folks, this is real respect for the taxpayer, something that Rob promised when he got elected Mayor. Apollo is a taxpayer and we really respect their business, so Rob and I wanted to give them your money.

    You say that you don't feel that respect? Forcing you to pay more tax so that our clients pay less? No problem, become a Deco client and we'll send the city over to do your roadwork, reduce your taxes, and give you grants. Not a client? Then shut up and pay your tax.

    God Bless Toronto, if you're a Deco client, hop on the gravy train.

    FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS

    Thank You

    ...and our mum and Rob's wife "The Pollack" as I call her on this radio station had a great Mothers Day, because Rob wasn't there.
  2. Adriane Taylor posted on 05/12/2014 07:58 AM
    And the beat goes on....while the left-wing spoilers continue to batter the Ford family on a personal level, a similar timbre resonates in their treatment of Mr. Hudak and the opposing voices. Kathleen Wynne exudes all the trappings of a Communist scheme. In Wynne's Ontario The People will be commanded how to think, feel, and speak. Privacy will be obliterated, truth controverted, opinion exterminated, and debate cancelled. Work and reward will be pooled to the benefit of "the greater good". Canada, the envy of the World, will begin its rapid slide into the darkness of the socialist abyss. Give Wynne a legitimate mandate at your supreme peril.
    1. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 08:21 AM
      @Adriane Taylor Nice rant, deluded Con supporter

      BUT

      Completely off topic.
    2. Townie posted on 05/12/2014 08:24 AM
      @Adriane Taylor 1. This is an article about the Fords. Why can't you stay focused on the topic? That's Fordite "logic" at work.

      2. There are 10 provinces & 3 territories in this great country. How would 1 premier's action cause the entire country to "slide?" That's grumpy old fart hyperbole.

      3. You're a fool. See #1 and #2 above.
    3. Crystal Sage posted on 05/12/2014 09:28 AM
      @Adriane Taylor I hope you're enjoying your socialistic health care, roads, schools and all those other socialism-based benefits that the lefties brought to you. The topic here is conflict of interest, not the joys of conservatism, but keep on deluding yourself that countries like Denmark, Sweden, and Germany are on a "rapid slide into the darkness of the socialist abyss."
    4. spicygarage posted on 05/12/2014 09:28 AM
      @Adriane Taylor Since you we're completely off-topic for this specific article, I will only post one reply. I don't want your disregard for context to be fueled via long exchanges.

      Your tin-foil rant is laughable, but I do want to challenge you on loss of privacy.

      The government doing its best to deprive all Canadians of their privacy is run by the federal Conservatives. Year after year, they keep introducing variations of Internet surveillance bills that would allow ordinary Canadians' privacy to be invaded _without a court warrant._ The latest version, Bill C-13, would even allow Rob Ford (!) to access your personal and Internet information without a court warrant.

      And in typical bully form, they defend such flagrant privacy violations with when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife arguments like the classic "you are either with us, or with the child pornographers" which shows how they feel about their own footing. If their cause was just and true, they could advance compelling arguments that obey the rules of logic. By resorting to lies and illogic, they expose their cause to be unjust and untrue.
  3. Suz58 posted on 05/12/2014 08:20 AM
    Yup, no monetary reward for the Fords! Whatever happens now, rehab or not, they deserve. Between this news and the latest audio reports, I think they have both buried themselves deep. About time!
    While in politics, your personal life spills over into your professional life and visa versa. While holding any kind of seat in politics, like any public personality, you will not earn the respect unless you respect yourself and the people you are suppose to be representing.
    I hope we are finally done with these jokers. Be careful Toronto, you saw how slogans and words steered the votes in the last election for mayor. My opinion is that just having brothers together in City Hall is a conflict of interest.
    As we have seen, you elect one Ford, you get them all! You elect Rob Ford for Mayor, you get undesirable attention, lies, untruths, bigotry, sexist thinking, homophobia, drug dealing and on the list goes.
    This will not be the end of it. I am sure there is more to come. I really did not think Rob Ford went to rehab because he felt he had a problem...he went to rehab to avoid the rubble yet to fall. He will return a few pounds lighter, only to say he is "healed". Too little, too late!
    1. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 08:23 AM
      @Suz58 Well said ... and 100% accurate.
    2. Suz58 posted on 05/12/2014 08:46 AM
      @Brief and to the Point Thank you, Brief and to the Point.
      I do try to write accurately, by researching rather than just following my gut. Unfortunately, my gut and my research cannot be separated anymore. It almost sound like the rumbling of an oncoming storm. We are now experiencing the calm before the storm.

      I think I do need to say, I do wish him all the best in rehab, other than that, he deserves the respect he has given the people of Toronto. That goes for his brother as well. You cannot tell me the family did not know how bad this was getting. A decent family would have been helping him to get help long ago.

      Funny cause it almost seems like he is the "fall" guy for this family. Maybe a reason to have compassion for him but, not to have him any where near City Hall.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 10:56 AM
      @Suz58 Well, unlike BRIEF AND TO THE POINT, its actually nice to see someone on the other side of the fence that is viewing this entire thing clearly- instead of "blame everything on Ford" glasses.

      You are somewhat right about the family. More specifically, I would more point the blame squarely on the sister over everyone else. Wouldn't blame the wife or the kids- or even the mom. Also wouldn't even go so far as to blame Doug- as he's stuck his neck out so many times defending his brother. Who of course was in utter shock when Rob admitted to using crack last year. I honestly think the sister is the black sheep of that family, and she is pulling Rob down with her. Actually, she should be the one in rehab too when you think about it.

      But, as to this story being a big deal- it really isn't. It's not going to really gain any traction- more like a shrug of the shoulders. Its already a "so what" conclusion from the pundits I listened to this morning- and these are pundits who are always against Rob Ford at the word go.
      The media are looking under every rock and dark crevice to milk the Ford saga dry- and capitalize with the big bucks of course. But in this endeavor, they are the ones who in this process, "embarrassing Toronto"- not the mayor.
    4. Suz58 posted on 05/12/2014 12:04 PM
      @Karl Burgin Karl, I really think there are some serious family dynamics going on here. I am not placing blame on one member, but I do think this family as a collective has a real problem.
      I think that politically, they stand together but privately, they fall. I think it is merely a front that they are a united tight knit family. I also think that Mr. Ford Sr. was the boss and what he said went. Once he passed, every one of the family members had the freedom to do as they pleased.
      I have seen it too often where there has been a tight reign and once that reign is no longer there, you see a Rob Ford. Again, not blaming him, since I don't really think it is his fault. He is a product of. However, he is now old enough to know the difference between right and wrong and that is where I get, "spoiled rich kid". My game, my ball, play my way or we don't play at all. I think Rob's biggest disappointment was not being played on the University football team, so he quit. Then realizing his family's money could not buy a football career for him, he settled. I think he was an embarrassment to the family for not completing school and was then told to work for the business. When he saw an in for politics, he went for it, thinking he could buy respect with promises. Power goes to the head, we have the spoiled rich kid throwing his weight around. It is a sad story and one that is all too common.
      As I say, I wish him well, but I think city hall should be out of the future for all the Fords.
      All the rehab in the world is not going to change the way he thinks about things.
  4. Edwin posted on 05/12/2014 09:02 AM
    Wait. Where is Sir Karl on this issue. Speak up young fella. Waiting to hear your (highly) insightful ideas with your continued support of dumb and dumber.

    Can't wait. I know you are there.
  5. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 09:43 AM
    Geez....I comment, people want to run me out of town, or say my opinion doesn't matter.
    When I don't comment, people want to know where I am. Ugh.....
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    As for this story, this is neither here nor there. This is just another attempt of the media trying to find more dirty laundry on the Fords, but coming up short.
    Fortunately, this topic isn't "sexy" enough for it to take hold with the general public, and gather steam. It most likely will die by tomorrow. I am not so confident however, in the media's ongoing saga, in overturning every rock, and dark crevice, to find some scoop of the Fords, to create headlines to run with. All for the sake of "public interest" as they would put it.

    Regardless, all of these "breaking" stories just goes to show:
    1.> The media suffering from separation anxiety + withdrawal symptoms with Ford temporarily out of the picture
    2.> None of these stories are informative- not even dredging the bottom ocean floor. Now its all about examining the specks, and seeing how to blow it out of proportion
    3.> The local media are the ones all along who are bent on embarrassing Toronto (as some would like to put it), and then blame it on Ford. Sure, when you had Ford out and about, and the media chasing and digging, it was hard to differentiate between the two, and who was the 'source' of said embarrassment. Now that Ford is out of the picture though, the media are still running stories. Sensationalized stories, that would no doubt spur interest in the media down south.
    The media are the driving force behind what's going on. It is becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day. And to those who think otherwise, are willfully sticking your heads in the sand.
    1. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 09:55 AM
      @Karl Burgin And to think that some people have actually been waiting to hear from you ... only to see yet another re-hash of old, previously repudiated garbage from Rob Ford's chief apologist.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 10:46 AM
      @Brief and to the Point Actually, I'm calling it as I see it. Only you/others who think like you, that believe even the slightest comment that even resembles a Ford 'defense', thinks of it as some apologist's view.

      I've already posted in other areas that if Ford emerges from this, and still continues in the same way, his support will drop through the bottom. Is that an apologist view BRIEF AND TO THE POINT, or are you just bent on ridiculing no matter what I say...
    3. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 10:54 AM
      @Karl Burgin You are still re-hashing old disproved theories, denials, delusions, deflections and, generally, nothing of relevance again and again.

      Create a relevant comment about the irrelevant Ford if you can.

      In my father's day your commentary would have received a "Change the needle ... you're stuck on the same old song, lad."
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 11:17 AM
      @Brief and to the Point Disproved theories? Are you freakin' kidding me...

      I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but here we go. You want a rant. You're about to get one:
      1.> There was a expert in the media consulting field that Ryan Doyle during the Friendly Fire show that was interviewed. During that interview, she surmised that, for better or for worse, the amount of media coverage on Ford was in the realm of $1.1 BILLION! There is no one on the planet willing to spend that much on publicity. Ford got that from the sensationalist media here, which was then carried over to the U.S., and then world-wide.
      Rob Ford may be rich, but he ain't THAT filthy rich. This all to show, the media has played a very heavy hand in all this- and continue to do so. And yet you have the gall to claim that my theories are just denials and delusions.
      2.> Ford is away. He is in rehab. The media is now bent on destroying him by bringing up 'old' material? Really. You criticize ADRIANE TAYLOR for being off-topic for his comment. He was actually bang-on. Wonder why? Because of that one word that drives everyone up the wall: the double-standard. If there was as much attention paid to other public servants of the people, as much as Ford, you'd find that he's not the only one with skeletons. Or better yet, if we had devoted this much media resources to the Liberal government, we wouldn't be quivering in fear of the possibility that we may have a corrupted though official government by the end of summer.
      But of course, its not the same thing. Because whether Rob Ford was drunk a couple of weeks ago, or back in January is OBVIOUSLY more important.

      You are the one delusional my friend. And I think that is because you (and probably the left) still think of Ford as a threat. The last thing I guess you would want is any momentum that may see Ford roaring back to the front- so better to nip any and everything in the bud, right?
      Unlike you, yes I support the man. But my support has limits. And I do have the capacity, the criticize the man, but still support him in the same breath.

      You're star horse is the media reporting on Ford- and that it entails. You're problem is that you believe everything the media tells you. Sure the media may have a few stories correct here and there, but if you cannot (or do not) see the driving force behind all of this, you are just another mindless sheeple.

      I went to university studying this. You may think of my theories as some re-hashed bull crap. But so far I've been right on the following:
      1.> The media are the ones who made Rob Ford almost a house-hold name. There is no chance that Ford could have remotely accomplished this on his own
      2.> That once Ford steps into the back burner, the media are going to find every and anything on the man to make headlines. This is happening right now. The same way they tried to blow the story of if Ford was in rehab out of proportion.
      3.> It is documented and public that there is a vendetta against Ford by the Star. And now everyone seems to be jumping on that bandwagon.
      4.>The Star have literally sunk millions into running after Ford, paying for embarrassing videos, and the like.

      I could go on, but I shouldn't have to..... So don't you come here and tell me my "theories" of which I write is nothing more than hogwash. If you choose not to believe it, then that's your prerogative, of which I have no desire in swaying you from - I neither have the interest, the time or the energy.
      But at least have the balls to own up to it.
    5. Mark7 posted on 05/12/2014 12:38 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Give up, Karl is a liar, thief, and a Ford apologist. I'm suspecting that the company he works for has ties to the Fords. Nobody can be so stupid that they need to go through ridiculous contortions to justify criminal and unethical behaviour.

      Don't waste your time, Karl is an idiot, doesn't listen, has a pathological need to always be right, and always needs to have the last word.

      A total sociopathic moron, this Karl.
    6. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 01:46 PM
      @Karl Burgin I managed to get through to the end of "I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but here we go."
      No point in reading the other wasted 100's of words because you, obviously, proved my point (for the umpteenth time !!) with those.

      Change the needle, lad ... and try to be "Brief and to the Point".
    7. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 02:02 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Although I wouldn't necessarily lump you in with the useless troll above who likes to use fake names to give stupid opinions, your responses are very much alike.
      In which the only reason why I wasted 1000+ words on my response to you, is to provide FACTUAL EVIDENCE as to why you're wrong here. Unfortunately, you're still willing to stick your head in the sand despite the fact.

      Try not to get any sand in your eye while you're down there. As for donny p. (aka fake MARK7), i could give a rats ass about what you think. Given that you're the racist, neurotic moron. Although it is interesting you've figured how to use a thesaurus to expand your limited vocabulary.
    8. tanjo posted on 05/12/2014 02:21 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Karl has a considerably higher IQ than (I suspect) both Fords put together. I have come to the conclusion that his take on any story is governed by 3 parameters:

      (1) Rob Ford is good
      (2) The Liberal Party is evil
      (3) The media, particularly the Toronto Star, is evil incarnate

      Now given this, we can dissect his assessment of this story, which seem to entirely focus on (3) and rightfully so. We know the Fords basically ignore any rules or guiding principles that apply to their positions and we already knew that the Fords have directed city resources to causes that they are personally involved in. This is just more of the same.

      Notably absent is any mention the actions of the Fords, in relation to (1). This could lead us to conclude that even Karl cannot find any positive spin on the direct actions of the Fords, which initiated this article. In short, even Karl has his limits, although he carefully hides them under the camoflage of the written word.

      The media is the message. We can therefore speculate that Karl disapproves through his complete lack of specific approval.
    9. Mark7 posted on 05/12/2014 03:40 PM
      @tanjo Good points, but I'll add that Karl now has a real problem. These new allegations were brought to us by The Globe and Mail, a new player in the Toronto City Hall mess. What should Karl do? A national paper exposing Rob and Doug's corruption in the Mayor's Office? His hero, on the front page across Canada being reported as a Third World despot? Mugabe would be proud.

      Next I fear that the media will be reporting that Rob Ford bears responsibility for the thousands murdered by the Mexican drug cartels. Murders that are a direct result of the insatiable demand for illegal drugs in North America. As a cocaine addict, Rob actually does has some responsibility in those murders.

      Poor Karl...nowhere to hide nomore.

      FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS
    10. donny p. posted on 05/12/2014 03:44 PM
      @Karl Burgin I knew that you would reply to me because you're a liar and a thief. Thanks, I always knew you really did love me, they say that opposites attract, but deep down inside we're really the same. Two brothers of a different mother (I'm not brown).
    11. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 04:09 PM
      @tanjo Hey TANJO- i sure hope to God I'm responding to you, and not someone posing as you.
      But I will re-order the parameters (which I do appreciate the effort) that you stated:

      1.>Rob Ford good but flawed
      2.>Liberal Party evil incarnate
      3.>The media- now running Enquirer-like stories
      4.>Toronto Star- evil incarnate

      I guess you can say I don't agree with the Fords in this story here. But I'm not hopping mad about. Unlike some here that reflect utter glee; that "yes, we've got the Fords now!" approach.

      I'm also not altogether comfortable with the word "spin"- as that is not usually my approach when I write my comments. If it is taken that way, I do apologize. I mean for my approach only to be highly suspect of what and how the media approach their stories- especially when they headline the Rob Ford stories on this website.
      As I said before, if the media had thrown aside the eagerness and bias when it came to the Rob Ford stories, I would probably be leaning to your side of the fence. The job of the media is to (mainly) project stories in an objective and unbiased light- with it being up to the audience to come to their own conclusion. I have a huge problem, when the media tries to influence the decision-making process.

      Again, let me be clear:
      1.>I disagree with Ford drinking
      2.>I disagree with Ford doing drugs
      3.>I disagree when Ford's stubbornness gets in the way of personal good judgment
      4.>I disagree with Ford being his own worst enemy in some cases

      There are more pet peeves I could add to that list, but those are my major four. But to have the capacity to separate that from every present and future situation, and judge them accordingly, is what we need. Not just a blind mob mentality.

      I was honestly looking forward to a few weeks free of the Ford hype (or anti-Ford hype), as he's not in the public light TANJO. Even if you have to run the "stories" at some point, why not do it when the man has the choice to answer for it? And yes, I am well aware he will probably ignore the media or the questions. But doesn't it bother you that they are trying so hard to bury Ford- especially when they can only release 'old' news- that doesn't really inform us of what we mostly already know. From the books I've had to study (and write essays) about legitimate news media, this isn't how it is supposed to be.
      And before I'm taken to task on that last point, Christie Blatchford, who has dumped a lot on Ford as of late, has also expressed those very same concerns about the state of the media coverage of Ford.
    12. Peter posted on 05/12/2014 04:12 PM
      @Karl Burgin I hate to say it but Mark7 is right...if you do really post from work you must have stolen at least 3 hours of what your employer thought he was paying you to work to read the post and compose those two absurdly long comments...so long and convoluted that I doubt anyone read them. I didn't, just didn't have the time.

      But you did...how can you look anyone in the eye at our office knowing how much money you steal from them?
    13. Mark7 posted on 05/12/2014 04:20 PM
      @Karl Burgin Another hour's worth of pay this post tells everyone you just stole from your employer. Using his keyboard and server as well?

      You really are a thief, just as bad as those cashiers that steal from the till.
    14. Karl Burgin posted on 05/12/2014 04:28 PM
      @Peter Really? You people who like to dump on Ford supporters about staying on topic- and you come here to criticize me?

      You people are too funny. And please don't be too concerned about my job. I'm doing quite fine. Probably 100x better than the troll you seem to endorse- who you probably don't even recognize is using a fake name to make his stupid spiel.

      You want to respond to my post based on the article PETER, then you're free to do so. I responded to TANJO even though we don't see eye to eye- but I still respect him. Are you capable of that PETER........
    15. Mark7 posted on 05/12/2014 04:35 PM
      @Karl Burgin Interesting...a little brown IT guy living in Brampton, driving a 2007 Impala (!), and ripping off his employer for at least 50% of his wages actually thinks that he's doing well. I hate to think of what his definition of hell could be.

      That's just sad...and then he even says really stupid stuff defending the corrupt Ford regime. Now that's funny!
    16. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 06:23 PM
      @Karl Burgin Your definition of "FACTUAL EVIDENCE" is laughable.
      You actually express yourself with circular arguments but fail to recognize it when they come back to bite you.

      As to my use of a thesaurus, I have never needed one.

      For a very average "working stiff", (computer repair isn't it ... and who loves to brag about some mystery university studies), you constantly exhibit your limitations, in thought word and probably action.
    17. Karl Burgin posted on 05/13/2014 08:59 AM
      @Brief and to the Point "Try not to get any sand in your eye while you're down there. As for donny p. (aka fake MARK7), i could give a rats ass about what you think. Given that you're the racist, neurotic moron. Although it is interesting you've figured how to use a thesaurus to expand your limited vocabulary."
      1.> Unless you also go by the id MARK7, DONNY P., KARL BURGIN, DOUG FORD, or whatever other silly ID you decide to use on any given day, that comment was not meant for you. It was only meant for the troll who switches his name like some crazy schizo- that keeps cyber-stalking all my posts.

      2.>Your vocabulary is fine- although I do question your logic- and your persistence in sticking your head in the sand. Those facts I brought up are actual accounts- they are not stuff I pulled out of the ethers and made up. I am sure if you Google them, you will find them to be true. But if you would like to remain in your fantasy world as it stands, I understand.

      3.>Please don't pretend to know me. Yes I do computer repair. But I do a ton more than that. Computer repair is child's play for me. But I am not here to talk about me. And I only bring up the university thing, only to emphasize I did specialize in media studies- and trained to "find the message in the message" (so to speak). But again, you don't know me- so please don't try. The same way I do not know you. But I'm not presumptuous to put you in a box.
  6. Joe Smith posted on 05/12/2014 11:01 AM
    Gravy Train: Ford Brothers Edition.
  7. arthur posted on 05/12/2014 02:30 PM
    self entitled goofball cakes
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