Provincial election: Opposition parties make hydro promises

Both the Tories and NDP claim they'll save you money

He's not promising to lower your hydro rates but Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak says he can slow the increase.  The province's opposition parties focused on your hydro bills as a new week of the election campaign kicked off.

In his home turf of Niagara, Hudak says he has a plan that would save families $384 compared to what the Liberals are proposing. He vows to end wind and solar subsidies, which he says would save $20 billion and create 40,000 jobs in the sector.

While in Vaughan, Premier Kathleen Wynne called the plan a fantasy. Wynne says there's no way to implement Hudak's plan and build the energy infrastructure the province needs to deal with increased demands. She also took a swipe at Hudak's Million Jobs Plan, which also aims to cut 100,000 public sector jobs. She says it calls for pink slips over pay cheques.

NDP leader Andrea Horwath is promising to scrap the provincial portion of the HST on hydro bills.   She says that would save the average homeowner about $10 a month.

Horwath made the announcement in Thunder Bay.

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  1. john posted on 05/12/2014 11:54 AM
    man Wynne is soooo full of shit farms can use it for fertilizer for there crops . for the next 1000 years .

    Andrea Horwath plain is not going to work cause they will raise the rates to compensate for the money they lost . just like insurance company s did last budget unless thay put in a law first that freezes the price before the cut kicks in . like thay should have done when thay put the cuts into insurance last budget .
    1. Sonny posted on 05/12/2014 03:33 PM
      @john You don't think Hudak is full of BS. the Ford question is; How are you going to pay for it and balance the Budget?
    2. john posted on 05/15/2014 02:43 PM
      @Sonny remember when the liberals got in power and before we had the time to fart thay told us we have over 50 billion dollars in dept ? and use that as a lame ass excuse to out in so called user fees also know as tax . we get the money like this . we sue the liberals for the gas power and orange scandal . get 4 times more then what thay use then we use that .
  2. arthur posted on 05/12/2014 12:58 PM
    the people in the background of Tim's photo op above look like they are positively on board with Tim's plan for government. Or in my opinion it looks like half of them look to me like they're saying this guy is so full of sht. can i get back to lunch break all ready?
    1. john posted on 05/12/2014 01:08 PM
      @arthur and how do u know it is not the other way around ?
  3. ToddK_2 posted on 05/12/2014 01:14 PM
    If the Liberals get in again, Ontarians will be the biggest collective voting idiots on the planet.
    1. john posted on 05/12/2014 03:10 PM
      @ToddK_2 sounds like new name for unions . to me .
    2. dama posted on 05/12/2014 03:11 PM
      @ToddK_2 The Liberals MIGHT get in with a minority government again,,
      for UNIONS are supporting the Liberal and the UNION does not give a shit to ordinary Ontarian who is not unionised..

      The Unions supported the latest Liberal budgets and they were pissed with Andrea Horwarth for not supporting it hence the election... the Union does not care about the Gas plant cancellation for it was union workers that lay the pipes or dismantled the pipes.. they get paid . either way..

      The Union hates the PC..
    3. arthur posted on 05/12/2014 03:38 PM
      @ToddK_2 maybe Alberta is more for you? think about it. your kind can all be together
    4. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 03:41 PM
      @arthur Tell me Arthur, what have the Liberals done to win your confidence? Have they decreased our deficit, lowered our taxes, improved our services, or made our lives better in any way?
  4. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 01:24 PM
    Continued Liberal leadership means economic ruin through Ontario becoming the most business-hostile province in Canadian history.

    An NDP government means economic ruin, just a lot faster.

    A PC government means a smaller and more affordable public sector, lower taxes, and the first step to repairing the eleven years of damage McGuinty and Wynne have done to our home.
    1. Harry posted on 05/12/2014 07:15 PM
      @Jack Jack give Rob back his pipe will ya!
    2. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 07:25 PM
      @Harry Feel free to dig up some evidence and disprove anything I've said. Or, have fun making Rob Ford jokes in something that doesn't involve Ford at all. Either way is good.
  5. ToddK_2 posted on 05/12/2014 01:40 PM
    It's all about keeping the status quo. Guess what my teacher friends are telling me what they are being told to vote for? They are being told Hudak will take their homes.

    Small efficient government is the way to get things moving not bloated public sector wages that will tax us to death. A cost effective government keeps things affordable for everyone. Who do you think is raising our cost of living every year? Fat cats, costly public services, corrupt useless government departments and union member heads.
    1. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 01:52 PM
      @ToddK_2 That's exactly the attitude we need moving into this election. Also, you should check out a group called Working Canadians: a volunteer not-for-profit organization devoted to exposing how unethical and unnecessary unions really are in Canada. Find them on Facebook, Twitter, and
    2. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 05:50 PM
      @ToddK_2 Have an opinion if you like ... but don't resort to lies !

      The teachers' unions have said NOTHING to their memberships regarding the election choices.

      This is a too typical right wing Tea Party lying tactic.

      Beware the Hudak campaign.
      It has no rules.
    3. Dean posted on 05/12/2014 06:43 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Right, because unions are famous for being very tolerant of differing opinions amongst their ranks, and it's not like teachers have ever tried to brainwash kids and send them home to tell Mommy and Daddy how to vote.

      Except for when I was a kid and my teachers told me to go home and tell my parents that Mike Harris was a bad bad man and that I should throw a tantrum if they were going to vote for him. Good job on that one, school board.
  6. Brief and to the Popint posted on 05/12/2014 01:50 PM
    I get the feeling that those seemingly nice people in the blue shirts don't realize they'll soon be fighting one another for WalMart greeter jobs - should Tea Party Tim get in.
    1. Ernie posted on 05/12/2014 01:52 PM
      @Brief and to the Popint @Brief
      And how exactly have the liberals prevented the labour force from turning into low paying service sector jobs?

      After 10 years they have a proven track record of job failure.

      They created only 32,000 jobs over 10 years with all their tricks and gimmicks - The economy can loose that much in a single month. They are far from rocket scientists.
    2. Dean posted on 05/12/2014 01:54 PM
      @Brief and to the Popint Meanwhile, if the Liberals or NDP are elected, everyone in that picture will be fighting one another for the last scraps of food in a burned-out No Frills within ten years. Once socialism has made it impossible for businesses to operate and provide jobs in this province, that's where we're heading.

      The choice is clear: Hudak for Premier!
    3. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 05:54 PM
      @Dean Curb your enthusiasm and wipe the drool off your chin.

      Hudak is already finding ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (again).

      Proof : 10 days of unofficial and official campaigning - resulting in 5 major gaffes.
    4. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 05:56 PM
      @Ernie Interesting Tea Party math there, Ernie.

      Up until this March the Liberal Government had a lower unemployment rate than Harris or Eves EVER achieved !
    5. Dean posted on 05/12/2014 06:44 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Forgive me if I don't throw my hat in the air in excitement over the Liberals increasing the number of government workers, and thus the number of dollars confiscated from my paycheck to feed a redundant middle manager instead of my family.
    6. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/13/2014 06:01 AM
      @Dean Take a breath different from the Hudak hot air you're inhaling and do some reading.
      The crap you're spouting is Tea Party crack.
    7. Dean posted on 05/13/2014 12:07 PM
      @Brief and to the Point Provide some evidence to back up your claim, rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "Nuh-uh!" as loud as you can.
  7. Ernie posted on 05/12/2014 01:50 PM
    Im surprised Wynn hasn't said that the HST collected from electricity will pay for high speed bullet trains from London to Toronto.

    260 billion to carry .. what 100 people a day

    On the other hand, she can save everyone money just by saying we should all jog to work.
  8. ToddK_2 posted on 05/12/2014 02:22 PM
    Let's be honest: NDP, Liberal and PCs are all responsible for us being 30 years behind in transit, bloated governments and public sector unaffordable pensions and benefits, corruption and entitled government heads, downloaded\uploaded services etc.

    We just need new blood plain and simple; if we don't send this message to the goof balls in our Provincial government we are saying its ok to delete emails, let corrupt officials run e-Health, Orange, and our power policies.

    I'd like to see the first order of business is to dismantle the OPA.
    1. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 05:59 PM
      @ToddK_2 Your point regarding transit development is accurate to a degree.
      However, keep in mind that the Conservatives have been in charge in Ontario for 45 of the last 60 years.

      They own the lion's share of the blame - without doubt.
    2. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 06:46 PM
      @Brief and to the Point If we're going to use arbitrary timeframes, the Liberals have been in power for 10 of the last 10 years. We have three times as many government workers as in 2009; would you say that our government is now three times as effective, that wait times at Service Ontario are now three times as short, or that any aspect of our day-to-day lives have become three times better?

      We are NOT getting our money's worth. It's time for a change. It's time for the PCs.
    3. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/13/2014 06:06 AM
      @Jack Great idea. Let's return to Harris-like slash and burn so we can take another 2 generations to try and dig out from under economically, while rebuilding services lost.

      Yes, it sure worked the last time --- let's do it again, moron !
  9. Frankie posted on 05/12/2014 02:43 PM
    I don't know if the Liberal voters will ever achieve sufficient intelligence to turf their party out. Even Dwight Duncan, former Liberal Finance Minister, has warned Sousa and Wynne of the dangerous deficit path their going down.

    If you're a Liberal what more do you need?
  10. arthur posted on 05/12/2014 03:42 PM
    have to get out and vote people. we have a chance to say NO to right wing tea party politics. let's get out there in force and create a good job in the consulting business for Tim Hudak
    1. Jack posted on 05/12/2014 03:57 PM
      @arthur Who would you rather see in office, Arthur? Wynne's Liberals, always ready to waste billions upon billions of dollars with no positive results to show for it? Horwath's NDP, who collectively lack the financial sense of even one dull-witted Liberal MP?

      The PCs are the only party who understand we cannot keep borrowing $20 billion a year indefinitely, and that any chance of an economic recovery for Ontario hinges on fighting unrealistic and unsustainable demands from the bloated public sector.
    2. neo-TO posted on 05/12/2014 04:22 PM
      @Jack Unrealistic? The promise of ONE MILLION NEW JOBS certainly merits.
      I dont care what party says this - its impossible for any government. Especially for the PCs now that Hudak announced he will cut 100,000 - so that means he now has committed to 1,100,000 jobs.

      I hate all choices this election, whether its jobs or electricity prices. I dont believe green energy has pushed our price higher - I think it could be all the levels of administration (HydroOne, OEB, OPA, IESO, OPG) - ALL associated with electricity and their $100,000+ salaries. Thats what is killing us.
    3. Frankie posted on 05/12/2014 04:22 PM
      @arthur You should move to a truly socialist country where you can suck on the public teat all you want, and don't come back when they go bankrupt!

      You keep spewing tea party nonsense about the Conservatives despite the fact they're far from it. I guess you Liberals have to fear-monger because the truth wouldn't help your party.

      What would you say to Dwight Duncan as he's even warned the Liberals of the dangerous fiscal path they're taking? Or are you going to call me a liar again and deny he said that?
    4. ToddK_2 posted on 05/12/2014 04:35 PM
      @Frankie Well those are the same people who tried to tell us Harper was the devil Incarnate and will eat our babies.
    5. Frankie posted on 05/12/2014 04:58 PM
      @ToddK_2 You are so right! There are idiots out there that are still waiting for Harper's "hidden agenda". I'm not a slash and burn guy but this Liberal government has been whoring themselves with tens of billions of our tax dollars for votes only, no matter how damaging it is and will be to our province.
    6. Brief and to the Point posted on 05/12/2014 06:02 PM
      @arthur I don't know that WalMart has a consulting position available - but they have kept a greeter's position open in Niagara Falls for Tea Party Tim.
  11. Alex posted on 05/12/2014 05:13 PM
    What is going to happen in the future?
    Hydraulic Fracturing for Shale Natural Gas is the new and controversial method for mining natural gas since traditional methods have depleted shale reserves.
    This is a dangerous procedure that results in earth quakes, vast quantities of untreatable water and unsafe health symptoms

    Electricity and echo friendly wind and solar are the future.
    1. Ernie posted on 05/12/2014 07:25 PM
      @Alex Mot at 22 cents per kwh they are not. Nuke is only 4.5 cents per kwh and the excess hydro can be used to make hydrogen to feul your cars.

      we really cant afford wind or solar unless they become ALOT cheaper. Not likely with wind, and solar may be 50 years away fro. True affordability.
  12. don was right posted on 05/12/2014 08:38 PM
    This is all about electricity costs. Magan employer of 19,000 as has said no new plants for Ontario because the cost fo hydro is too high. What part of that does that dumb a** Wynn not understand? Or she tooo belives in the union motto - the job is not done until the job is gone.
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