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Poll Shows 4 in 10 Ontarians Still Undecided

38% say they will make up their mind about how to vote after Tuesday night’s debate.

A new poll conducted by Ispos-Reid on behalf of Newstalk 1010’s broadcasting partners CTV News and CP24 shows that many Ontarians still don’t know how they will vote come election day on June 12th.

Four in 10 (38%) of those asked say they will make the decision following Tuesday night’s leader debate.

“We still have a lot of people who have yet to make up their mind and they’re going to do so in the back half of the campaign, after the leaders debate.  What’s important is that the leaders’ debate could influence up to 38% of people who are going to watch the debate and then decide.” said Ipsos Reid Senior Vice President John Wright.

Wright says this poll shows that debates matter, especially considering that 21% of those who said they had already made up their mind before the election was called say they could be swayed to support another political party by the end of the campaign. 

Liberal (32%) and NDP (28%) supporters were most likely to say that they decision could change, meaning some supporters could switch to the other team if they feel it’s the best way to defeat Tim Hudak.  However, the Progressive Conservative leader appears to have the strongest, steadiest base of support with 61% of PC supporters saying they’ve made up their mind and nothing is going to change their decision.  Compare that to only 41% of Liberals and 41% of New Democrats who say the same.

“It shows that Tim Hudak is in the best position going into this debate because his supporters have already made up their minds they don’t need to see or hear anything more from him.  What it’s saying to me is that the Liberal vote is still very and this is important for Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals to get the vote out.” said Wright.

The poll also found that residents in Toronto are most likely to consider shifting their support elsewhere with 31% saying they had a party in mind, but could be swayed.   

Tuesday’s debate begins at 6:30p.m.

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  1. Sonny posted on 06/02/2014 06:28 PM
    They can vote all day on the 12th. Plus there are close to 20 parties...
    1. Dean posted on 06/02/2014 06:49 PM
      @Sonny There are close to 20 "parties," yes. But when a large number of them are nonsense like the Vegan party or the Communist party, including them in the debate would just mean the real parties get less time to speak.

      On a side note, now that you have me talking about fringe parties: I was visiting my parents in Richmond Hill on the weekend and saw actual campaign signs for the Libertarian Party. Are they actually gaining momentum around here?
  2. Lishan posted on 06/02/2014 06:46 PM
    I'm confident enough in the PC party's plan for Ontario that I've already cast my ballot in the advance polls, for Martin Abell in Toronto Centre. Ontario needs responsible leadership and responsible spending, and neither of those is ever going to come from the Liberal or NDP parties.

    Remember: Ontario needs YOU to get out and vote BLUE!
    1. Sonny posted on 06/02/2014 07:09 PM
      @Lishan Abell is going to lose to Murray & Sellar. Toronto is going Liberal & New Democrat.
    2. Lishan posted on 06/02/2014 07:22 PM
      @Sonny You're very pessimistic. A lot of my neighbours seem like nice, intelligent people who enjoy their jobs and don't want to see their employers leave Ontario; I can't imagine they'd vote for the parties who are promising to leave them unemployed.
    3. Sonny posted on 06/02/2014 07:30 PM
      @Lishan Under a Hudak gov't there would be 100,000 jobs lost. Tea Party Tim is not going to create as many jobs as planned using Republican Voodoo
    4. Ernie posted on 06/02/2014 07:45 PM
      @Sonny which is exactly why Toronto is such a fucked up place!
    5. Ernie posted on 06/02/2014 07:46 PM
      @Sonny which is exactly why Toronto is such a fucked up place!
    6. Lishan posted on 06/02/2014 07:50 PM
      @Sonny Under a Hudak government, there would be 100,000 jobs in the NON-PRODUCTIVE, TAXPAYER-FUNDED public sector. Many, if not most, if not all, of those cuts will come from public sector workers retiring and not being replaced. There will also be a better environment for private-sector businesses to create jobs.

      You may recognize the private sector as the place where the taxpayers who fund your government job work, by the way.

      Furthermore, every person who gets off of welfare and into one of those new jobs means less tax money needed in welfare and MORE tax money coming in from the income tax that person is now paying.

      And on top of all of that, you have to consider the value of keeping existing jobs in Ontario, when those companies would otherwise leave the province thanks to Liberal/NDP policies of high energy rates, miles of red tape, continuous tax hikes thanks to constant concessions to Big Union, and the new job tax that both parties have promised to inflict.

      But by all means, keep focusing on the insignificant cut of 100,000 redundant, costly government employees.
    7. Lishan posted on 06/02/2014 07:54 PM
      @Lishan Excuse my typo at the beginning; I meant to say 100,000 jobs LOST in the non-productive, taxpayer-funded public sector.
  3. Sonny posted on 06/02/2014 08:00 PM
    I see Hudak is still posing in front of his signage even though the plan has been debunked by reputatble Economists. Plus you would probably have to vote in 3 Con majorities to reach the full number of the plan!
  4. David posted on 06/02/2014 09:25 PM
    To all voters have not decided who to vote for.

    Do not worry about what the Conservatives might do.

    Instead concentrate on what the Liberals did. Past behavior is a good prediction of future behavior.

    Fact: They are liars. Dalton McGuinty promised not to raise taxes. After he was elected he imposed the greatest tax grab in Ontario history.

    Fact: They are thieves. They took $1 billion of tax payers money to move gas plants in order to save some Liberal seats.

    Fact: They do not respect your tax $. They have wasted $ billions with e-health, ORNGE and the gas plants

    Fact: They are in bed with government unions. Under Liberal rule the private sector lost some 300,000 jobs while the government sector gained jobs. And most government jobs have better pay and benefits than the private sector
    1. Loretta posted on 06/02/2014 10:43 PM
      @David If we are looking at actions shall we also look at conservative actions?
      Conservatives allowed environmental issues slip until people died over it

      Conservatives put in place a bail out for hydro one namely a debt retirement charge instead of making hydro one take responsible action

      Is this really a better option???
    2. Andre posted on 06/03/2014 07:32 AM
      @Loretta Loretta, I'm not sure what environmental issues you are referring to. If Walkerton, that was due to the illegal acts of 2 brothers. Hydro one debt charge? How about the $4 billion the Liberal government added to it for there own purposes. Why is it, the Harris Government is vilified for the cuts they were forced to make thanks to the ridiculous debt left by the Rae NDP government before them, and the massive cuts to Ontario made by Martin and the Chretien Liberal Government. The real kicker is the same people who condemn the Harris government for the cuts, praise the Chretien Government for the cuts that caused it. Lets face it, Liberals Lie. Conservatives seem to be more truthful, and at least will apologize and give reasons if they cant do what they promised they would. While I don’t agree with NDP polices, at least they seem to be honest.
    3. Loretta posted on 06/03/2014 05:00 PM
      @Andre Andre. Whike you seem quick to clear mr. Harris in the walkerton deaths, the courts and residence of the area may not be a quick to agree. The judge of the inquest found the Harris government partially liable.
      The Rae NDP did not create the problems at hydro one in their one term of government. While I agree they did nothing to improve the situation neither did the Harris conservatives. The Harris conservatives allowed the debt recovery charge while hydro one bureaucrats were collecting excessive wages.
      While I agree the NDP seem to be the most honest, I would not be so quick to put halos on the conservatives. Their record is tarnished as well
  5. Neo-TO posted on 06/02/2014 09:47 PM
    I hate all options...
    1. Paul posted on 06/02/2014 11:29 PM
      @Neo-TO As long as you're not voting for the Liberal criminals or their NDP accomplices!
  6. RB used to be Tiffany of Private Radio posted on 06/03/2014 05:21 AM
    Can't wait for the incredible debate insight from the team of 2 year Radio Broadcasting grads.............umm, real expert analysis from those who can run the board.................wow
  7. Frankie posted on 06/03/2014 10:04 AM
    The only party that has any respect for the hard work of taxpayers is the Conservatives. This isn't a dating contest where the most attractive or the one that smiles the most should win.

    Hudak's cutting jobs is about attrition yet the Liberals are lying to make it seem they'll fire 100,000 people. The Liberals only know how to lie and have been successfully conning voters for 11 years. They have to lie because the truth would expose who they are and the damage they've caused.

    Anyone who has the slightest understanding of economics would know that Ontario is heading for serious trouble. Even Dwight Duncan has warned Wynne and Sousa they're on a dangerous fiscal path.

    The Liberals have demonstrated complete disrespect for taxpayers hard-earned dollars and will spend and waste billions more. All they care about is being in power no matter how damaging their policies are.

    I don't need to listen to more Liberal lies during the debate. Their track record speaks for itself, no matter what bs Wynne cons us with tonight
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 10:09 AM
      @Frankie It is funny FRANKIE that the Liberals have been in power for over a decade, and Ontario is losing jobs all over the place- but as soon as the election kicks in, they now have the secret sauce to create jobs? Ha!

      1.> Either they are incompetent- that they should have been trying to create jobs all along, and not sit on their hands
      2.> Opportunistic- in that they only care about the Liberal party. And everyone else can go to hell
      3.> They are liars- and they are making false promises- AGAIN!

      There is no good scenario where the Liberals are involved. It just boggles my mind that people are confused and still don't know who to vote for. I swear sometimes voters in Ontario are sheeple, and don't have he ability to think for themselves- and are easily distracted by shiny things (promises).
    2. Frankie posted on 06/03/2014 11:54 AM
      @Karl Burgin You summed up the Ontario Liberal party perfectly. That should have been their campaign slogan but honesty isn't something the Liberals are capable of.

      I think the Ontario Liberal voters are either the dumbest people in Canada and/or they're recipients of the Liberal bribe.
  8. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 10:05 AM
    This elections couldn't be any more clear cut. Ontario should be voting for Hudak- or the Green party as an alternative if for some reason you don't like him.

    But voters are still unsure of who to vote for? Are you telling me that the NDP and Liberals are an option, as to why people are unsure? Are you freakin' kidding me!?!!?!!!

    You have one party that IS criminal- that's not even up for debate anymore. And you have another party that has been an "accessory" who's been instrumental in propping said criminal party. The Liberals and an NDP shouldn't be an option to vote for.

    ********
    And on a side note with the OPP stepping in to give their two-cents, urging voters not to vote for Hudak- what the heck is wrong with you? You've just went from being objective to being biased. You don't want people to vote for Hudak, it's pretty clear Horwath isn't going to win. So who are you left supporting- the Liberals? The very party you are currently investigating criminally for the way they handled themselves during the gas plants debacle? How objective is your investigation going to be now. If Hudak doesn't, it may as well be your fault. Sure you didn't outright support the Liberals, but the perception is now there, and objectivity (which the OPP is supposed to hold in high regard) is now skewed.
    Now you are going to have to have the RCMP take over said investigation- because now the OPP have put themselves in the real of "conflict of interest". Did you not learn anything from the investigation into Rob Ford involving the Toronto Police.....
    1. Sammy from Scarborough posted on 06/03/2014 10:46 AM
      @Karl Burgin Poor you.
      Waaa !! ... Waaa !! ... Waaa !!

      The population won't support Tea Party Tim.
      They are aware that his ultra-right policies have never and will never work.

      There will be another Liberal government on the 13th thanks to the inept manner that Hudak has handled himself while trying to explain policies that no economist or the Conference Board of Canadfa find credible.

      Watch the debate - Hudak will have to "eat" his job creation plan of killing 100,000 jobs in order to create a million more.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM
      @Sammy from Scarborough I guess you're one of the poor sheeple I was referring to, that are attracted to shiny things.

      The funny thing is that Jim Richards, who is mainly Liberal, was blasting Wynne as well. And he himself doesn't get the "tea party" argument being used against Hudak.
      But hey, the Liberals blew billions of dollars, which in effect put Ontario in the red. But I'm sure we could afford to have another term with the Liberals in power.

      Here's your shoddy logic:
      1.> Don't vote for Hudak for what he might do if he's elected
      2.> Maybe vote for NDP- for supporting a corrupt government
      3.> Vote for the Liberals- because they're not done yet screwing us over.

      Makes plenty of sense to me SAMMY FROM SCARBOROUGH
    3. Sammy from Scarborough posted on 06/03/2014 12:15 PM
      @Karl Burgin A small re-write is needed here, Karl Burgin.

      1. Don't vote for Hudak - he has proven he's both incompetent and dangerous.
      2. Don't vote NDP - "No Damn Platform" doesn't make sense.
      3. Possibly vote for Wynne - she's the only one exhibiting any leadership ability.
      4. Don't pay attention to Karl Burgin - he thinks he has meaningful opinions - he only has delusions of intelligence.
    4. Jack posted on 06/03/2014 12:25 PM
      @Sammy from Scarborough I have to wonder what world you live in where "Live within your means" is viewed as ultra-right-wing philosophy.

      Furthermore, regarding the 100,000 redundant public sector jobs you're constantly shrieking about: First, they'll be lost mostly (if not entirely) through simply not replacing these people when they retire or quit. Second, that cut will take us from 1.2 million public servants to 1.1 million, the same amount we had in 2009.

      Now, I'll never claim to have a photographic memory, but I'm pretty certain that we still had hospitals, schools, and police in 2009.
    5. Dean posted on 06/03/2014 12:27 PM
      @Sammy from Scarborough Wynne has been doing a damn fine job of leading us straight into economic hell, if that's what you refer to as "leadership ability."
    6. tanjo posted on 06/03/2014 01:05 PM
      @Karl Burgin Hey Karl, I was wondering when you would get into the game!

      You are right, this election SHOULDN'T be any more clear cut. While not criminal, the Liberals have been cynical, negligent, arrogant and self-serving and do not deserve to be in office.

      So why is this not a slam-dunk for the PCs? Because Hudak, believe or not, is worse. While the Liberals failures have cost me hundreds of dollars, Hudak's PROMISES could cost all of us thousands.

      This election SHOULD HAVE been all about better managing the province. Well, Hudak can't even manage a campaign, let alone the province.

      His core message is contradictory: create more jobs by removing 100,000 positions and adding another 200,000 job seekers and, oh remove the college of trades so that anyone that can swing a hammer can pretend to be a carpenter. His premise that the private sector will create a million jobs based on reduced income taxes is laughable.

      Now if he had come out saying he is going to reduce the size of the public service to 2009 levels, provide better management and balance the budget, he could deliver that message quite effectively. But he botched that up too.

      We have heard the "better service / lower taxes" line before, and look how that turned out.

      And don't forget the subway gaffe and all the failed announcements that have plagued this campaign. His support of the Fords (withdrawn hastily), his support and subsequent backing off from the "Right to Work" legislation.

      The guy can't even manage a campaign, let alone the province.

      I said at the beginning of the campaign that this will be a race to see who is the least effective at getting themselves NOT elected. I am not suprised at all that this is a neck-and-neck race.
    7. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 01:25 PM
      @tanjo While not quite agreeing with everything you said, one thing is absolutely clear: John Tory should have been where Hudak is. If Tory was leader of the PCs, this election would be no competition.

      At this point in the game, we have to play the hand we've been dealt. And all roads point to Hudak being the best of the three. And I don't think Hudak's support of Ford has anything to do with the election being a struggle. You can say that he doesn't seem to capitalize enough on the faux-pas of the Liberals. Lisa McCloud seems to be doing the best she can- and seems to be more the mouth-piece critic of the PCs.
      But just because Hudak can seem to muck up something so simple doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be Premiere.

      With the options in candidates we've got, he is the only logical choice. And the Green party is the only logical alternative- and I'm being quite serious here. The NDP/Liberals shouldn't be seen as some alternative- as Horwath and Wynne like to share the bedsheet- and right now only fighting over who gets the bigger pillow.
    8. tanjo posted on 06/03/2014 05:25 PM
      @Karl Burgin I still think McCloud and Hudak are going to be in for a world of (financial) hurt once that lawsuit goes through. Until that is settled, I don't want him in the premiere's chair. One of those camps (Wynne or Hudak/McLeod) is lying through their teeth and I don't want to give either of them a majority until I know who.
  9. Mark7 posted on 06/03/2014 12:13 PM
    To all criminal Fiberal voters, baaaaaaaa.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 12:33 PM
      @Mark7 That's the sound they make when they are being led off the proverbial cliff.
    2. Mark7 posted on 06/03/2014 04:22 PM
      @Karl Burgin Hey Karl. I rarely comment here anymore due to the flagrant allowing of the spammers.

      The sheeple will only have themselves to blame if the unthinkable happens...Criminal Fiberals getting back in.
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 06/03/2014 04:29 PM
      @Mark7 "Hey Karl. I rarely comment here anymore due to the flagrant allowing of the spammers"

      As demonstrated by the demented schizo donny p. below
    4. █Alex█ posted on 06/03/2014 04:48 PM
      @Mark7 █Speaking of criminals,hows Rob Ford?█
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 06/04/2014 09:20 AM
      @█Alex█ Getting ready to make his comeback.
    6. Mark7 posted on 06/04/2014 11:25 AM
      @Karl Burgin Yes. He is just a little twit in serious need of professional help.
  10. Karl Burgin the Thief posted on 06/03/2014 02:46 PM
    FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS FORD MORE YEARS
  11. █Alex█ posted on 06/03/2014 04:46 PM
    █Still undecided but I know who I won't be voting for! █ I will not vote for Tim Hudak who is going to Walmartize Ontario into a big giant junk shop.█How fitting that Tim worked for a retailer that helped take our good manufacturing jobs to other lands, then steps on those left working for very least compensation█
    1. Jack posted on 06/03/2014 04:53 PM
      @█Alex█ Don't worry Alex, we all understand how much you hate responsible government and sustainable spending. You've made it very clear that you'll be voting in favour of all private industry moving to China, and the whole province struggling on welfare.
    2. █Alex█ posted on 06/03/2014 05:49 PM
      @Jack █ I will be voting for a future in Ontario and that means not votng for Tim Hudak█ Former Walmart puppet that helped exploit the working families so the Waltons could become the richest family in the world█ Maybe we should be forced to go out with the forced Walmart managers speech and forced to do the Walmart squiggly cheer! █
    3. Jack posted on 06/03/2014 06:00 PM
      @█Alex█ Yes, yes, Wal-Mart this and Wal-Mart that.

      Tell me, how much comfort will you find in joking about Wal-Mart when the news starts reporting on people starving to death after a Liberal/NDP victory?
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 06/04/2014 09:27 AM
      @Jack Don't bother even try convince █Alex█.

      You can't fix stupid. This is the sheeple Wynne is depending on to usher her to victory.
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