TDSB fires workers and brings in new policies

152 construction and maintenance workers have been fired or disciplined

Nearly two years after a Toronto Star investigation showed a lot of slacking and outrageous costs for maintenance and construction work at Toronto public schools, the TDSB says it has fired or disciplined 150 construction and maintenance workers.

52 of those workers have been dismissed for what the TDSB is calling "time theft".

The board has also made substantial policy changes to way things get done in the schools.

The new policy will allow caretakers at schools to take care of small tasks (such as installing a pencil sharpener) themselves.

Instead of workers jumping from school to school to perform small jobs, work orders are now being bundled so that all jobs are done at once. This would hopefully trim down costs.

The board is also making moves to make sure everything is properly documented and has installed tracking devices on board vehicles, to make sure workers are where they say they are.

The initial investigation showed the board spent $143 to have a worker install a pencil sharpener, and more than $1100 to another worker for hanging a few pictures in a school. Other costs that made heads turn included, $2,442 to install a whiteboard and $3,000 to install a plug outlet in a library.

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  1. LetsBFair posted on 06/18/2014 09:20 AM
    That's great, every company has bad seeds that ruin it for everyone.
    In house workers are a small part of the problem at the school boards though.
    In school boards they hire outside contractors, the ones that build new schools or do additions or that do specefic repair jobs that inhouse workers aren't equipped for.
    These outside companies that are hired cut corners and do shoty work and get paid six figures from the boards. Problems aren't solved and they continue to give work to these same contractors??
    Then there is another problem.... schools can only order "board approved" items ..from pylons to tv's to even clocks/sharpeners.. They're ordered from a company that overcharges and marks up a low quality product. You could walk in to your local dollar store or Walmart and litterly save hundreds of dollars and get the exact same or an even better product.... but its not allowed. These companies that markup/distribute the products are profiting from the taxpayers everyday.
    Ask any teacher or principal and they will tell you.
    Its time to Stop attacking the unions/workers and look at the big picture and the higher ups...if you really want to save the big $$.
    1. This Is What You Wanted posted on 06/18/2014 11:28 AM
      @LetsBFair It's time to privatize all schools systems and healthcare and make every one of u responsible for your own person. It's called 'personal responsibility'.
      Why do Liberals and NDP''s think that money just falls from the heavens?
      Someone has to pay for this sh*t and it doesn't make any sense that the guy two doors down with no kids has to pay for the girl two doors up with 4 kids from 4 fathers to send to school.

      Wynne thinks this is fair but I good people think its a FRAUD!
    2. lisa posted on 06/18/2014 04:55 PM
      @LetsBFair You make many good points. We must end all waste and sinecure.
  2. This Is What You Wanted posted on 06/18/2014 09:35 AM
    Why not make the teachers do the work? I'm sure they all don't call someone in at home every time the lawn needs mowing. And what are the kids doing during detentions? Why not get those bad kids to install pencil sharpeners. They can't all be 100% useless.
    But all this could cause a problem for Wynne and she will have to look for new ways and things to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND on.
    1. Sonny posted on 06/18/2014 11:41 AM
      @This Is What You Wanted A teacher's job is too teach that is why we have custodians and maintenance staff. Detention is a time punishment for misbehaviour which you Cons would want to use as child labour. Education is under provincial jurisdiction.
    2. dama posted on 06/18/2014 02:17 PM
      @This Is What You Wanted It took the School board 2 years to give approval for caretaker to install a pencil sharpener, and you think it is legal for students who are on detention to do some school task??

      It is not in the teacher's job description to hang a picture of premier Kathleen Wynne in the hall way.. it HAS to be done by UNIONISED worker at $60 an hour.. even if I want to do it at $11, the School board cannot get ther approval.. now yo know why the TDSB cannot balance its book..
  3. Frankie posted on 06/18/2014 09:49 AM
    If there are no consequences then people will repeat the same actions. Hopefully this sends a signal that there needs to be respect for the employer (taxpayer).

    Too bad Ontario voters sent the wrong signal to the Liberals. They were punished for "stealing", wasting several billions, bribing unions with higher wages, etc. by receiving a majority.

    Congratulations to the dumbest people in Canada
    1. Sonny posted on 06/18/2014 10:15 AM
      @Frankie The Liberals received 1% more of the vote. It was Hudak and the TEA party approach that you like that lost 4%
  4. john posted on 06/18/2014 10:49 AM
    hoooollllleeeyyyyshhhiiiitttt union members getting fired ! WOW i never heard of that before . WTF ! . dont worrie thay will be back again on the job soon .
  5. Karl Burgin posted on 06/18/2014 12:17 PM
    They fired only those guilty of "time theft", doing personal stuff on company time. Hey, I do it all the the web, post from work and get paid for doing it. Nobody can fire me because I'm just too good for my job and I steal because I'm entitled to my entitlements. Do all brown people steal? You bet we do! And we deserve every penny.
    1. john posted on 06/18/2014 01:16 PM
      @Karl Burgin nice try donny p . u are not him i know it and we know it . not fooling anybody .
  6. This Is What You Wanted posted on 06/18/2014 12:31 PM
    We should be looking at privatizing all school systems. Not just eliminating one public board such as the Catholic Board. By privatizing the government would not be in conflict with the constitution since all public education could be collectively scrapped. Not any different than garbage pickup.
    Healthcare is another area that needs to be moved to the private sector. Maybe then the people who sit on their @sses will get up and get a job instead of eating chips and watching the TV all day. Just how many Judge Judy's can one watch anyway?
    1. john posted on 06/18/2014 01:30 PM
      @This Is What You Wanted i got a better ideal .

      1th we got to get rid of the liberals do a complete investigation into all thay did when thay were in power .

      2nd we need to get rid of unions have them registered as a terrorist group and then band them form Canada .
  7. This Is What You Wanted posted on 06/18/2014 01:56 PM
    The private sector will always out perform the public sector. Everyone knows this but there are those 'sacred cows' that even those who know better (in their hearts), want to touch. Tradition is all it is. Healthcare and education should be on the chopping block.
    Privatize them, sell of the assets and eliminate the deficit and let the private sector reign. Let healthcare providers, education providers and beverage providers all compete for your dollar. Very simple. Very effective. There is so much more to do. The public libraries are becoming a thing of the past with the internet. You don't expect the tax payer to pay for your internet do you? Why would you expect the same to pay for your expensive library?
    There is no difference between the healthcare, education or liquor store monopoly except the service provided.
    1. This Is What You Wanted posted on 06/18/2014 01:59 PM
      @This Is What You Wanted "....(in their hearts), don't want to touch."
  8. em posted on 06/18/2014 04:51 PM
    You've obviously never been sick in the US and without insurance. They just turn you away. We had that system here until the 1960s and a lot of people died. No thanks.

    Good U.S. studies now show that you can provide good all-in care for less than $4500. Let's reform, get smarter, bring in alternative therapies, especially where they get better results for less, head off illness altogether and minimize chronic diseases. With medicare reform, pharmacare and dental care coverage would be no brainers.

    We need psychologists for mental health. Chiropractors instead of those hip and knee surgeries that will not help. Naturopaths to head off heart disease, etc. without toxic meds and thereby preserve organs which Big Pharma happily kills off.

    By properly managing medicare and using it only when needed (ie when alternative therapies would not assist) , the public would be far healthier, side effects and organ transplants would plummet and health costs saved would easily fund good quality mental healthcare for all who need it.
  9. Fred posted on 06/18/2014 08:56 PM
    Just fire all the Skilled Trade Council workers. They are inept and corrupt along with that Jimmy Hazel guy.
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