New opinion poll shows dead heat in Toronto Mayoral race

Forum Research survey shows Olivia Chow leads in a 5-way Mayor's race

Toronto City Hall. (file photo)

There's still a long way to go before the October 27th municipal election but there is a new opinion poll out in the Toronto Mayor's race.

Forum Research did survey on Monday and compared to early June, Olivia Chow has fallen 9 points.  

Rob Ford has gained 7 points and John Tory remains the same, tied for first in a statistical dead heat, if the top 5 candidates stay till the end.

Chow leads the way with 29 percent support, followed by Tory at 28, and Ford at 27.

If it becomes a 3-way race, the advantage goes to Olivia Chow.  Tory is next and Rob Ford trails Chow by 8 points.

The survey finds voters who are familiar with John Tory think highly of him, with his approval rating at more than 65 percent -- up about 5 percent from 3 weeks ago.

Compare that to 54 percent for Olivia Chow, whose approval is slightly down over the same time frame.

Rob Ford is at the bottom with only about a third saying they approve of him.

In fact, about 6 in 10 voters are still calling on the Mayor to step down from office.

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  1. frank posted on 07/23/2014 08:01 AM
    We need to see a poll early next week.
  2. Ron posted on 07/23/2014 09:08 AM
    I can't comprehend how inept Chow and embarrassment Ford are even on the charts at all.
  3. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 09:17 AM
    Ford's numbers will rise towards the end if he keeps it boring at city hall- and Chow will fall by the wayside. Tory I think is the wildcard in this one- hard to predict where he will end up.
    1. Karl's Landlord posted on 07/23/2014 09:33 AM
      @Karl Burgin Let me explain it to you, loser troll tenant of mine.

      First - it's a Forum poll - that makes this supposed poll a moot point.

      Ford will crash and burn before the election - that's a given - he's an addict who still has not faced his demons head on. You know it, I know it - all intelligent people know it. Surprisingly, he will still get 15 - 20% because Ford followers are incredibly thick-skulled (prime example being you - but considering you live here in Brampton - who cares about you?)

      Chow will continue to slide in the polls because she's just too shrill and way too far left - even for the downtown lefties.

      Stintz and Soknacki will both be gone by Labour Day. Their combined vote (+/- 9%) will be split pretty evenly between Tory and Chow.

      Tory will win - but not by a large margin

      BTW - you're still 2 months behind in your rent, basement boy.
    2. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 09:37 AM
      @Karl's Landlord Funny donny....
      Because I'm sure when that silly convenience store poll came out with Tory leading and Ford being last, you were gleefully giddy.

      But please stop pretending to be my landlord. I own and live in a house. You'll never get a cent from me
    3. Karl's Landlord posted on 07/23/2014 09:44 AM
      @Karl Burgin You can fool some of the other people on this board, but you can't fool me. I'm your landlord and my basement regrets the day I let you become a tenant for your lousy $150 / month.
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 09:48 AM
      @Karl's Landlord Definition of Cyberstalking:
      It is generally understood to be the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk or harass an individual, a group, or an organization.
      Cyberstalking is a criminal offense under various state anti-stalking, slander, and harassment laws. A conviction can result in a restraining order, probation, or criminal penalties against the assailant, including jail.

      Get the picture....
    5. Peter posted on 07/23/2014 09:48 AM
      @Karl Burgin .
      Thanks Karl, I agree.

      Mayor Ford always seems to rise to the top, and rightly so. His positiveness makes things happen. I don't see that in his rivals.

    6. Okay, make it Karl's Mortgage Holder, then ... posted on 07/23/2014 12:13 PM
      @Karl Burgin Sorry, Karl. Couldn't resist.

    7. ark7 posted on 07/23/2014 12:19 PM
      @Karl Burgin Karl, I am in the process of phone calls to CFRB1010 to have this twit removed permanently. I shall keep calling them and driving them up a wall until this is done. We all have taken far too much abuse from this punk. As we both know ALL the spam messages are from a single person with major psychiatric issues. Feel free to add your voice in calls if you can afford the time to do it. I have lots of free time and will take up this cause to have the sanity return to this news forum. Cheers mate

      ps...This punk better hope I do not take him to court for his law breaking ways as well. He will be in for the shock of his life if this transpires. He brought this on himself.
    8. tanjo posted on 07/23/2014 12:20 PM
      @Karl Burgin "Ford's numbers will rise towards the end if he keeps it boring at city hall -"

      I disagree, Karl. I think Ford's best chance is if he keeps his *personal life* boring ... and keeps things exciting at City Hall.

      And Poll numbers don't always translate to votes. The provincial election can attest to that, so I am not going to comment on what they mean. Except I just did. Oops.
    9. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:14 PM
    10. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:18 PM
      @ark7 I have complained and reported many of the comments. I'm not sure if its the web admin not paying attention, or the fact that he can log in randomly when the 'captcha code' is typed in that they're having an issue dealing with this.
      It really does ruin the experience for everyone though
    11. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 01:49 PM
      @Karl Burgin Well now they have to deal with me too. The web administrator I shall get in contact with or I will state to CFRB that lack of action on their part is akin to responsibility. That should get the person off their ass. :) That is, unless they want me calling them for now on.

      ps...No matter what way this twit posts his responses his IP address will still be logged.
    12. john posted on 07/23/2014 01:59 PM
      @Karl Burgin and the rise of the chow empire will never happen and the ford dynasty will raise and ounce again the gravy trans to a abrupt halt . or crash into the valley below and all in the train get eaten by the hungry alligators below . a painful death i admit but i don’t gave a shit .
    13. john posted on 07/23/2014 02:04 PM
      @Karl Burgin u are right mate our Landlord is a dosh bag .
    14. john posted on 07/23/2014 02:36 PM
      @ark7 yea i hope u guys get thought on that . i am getting sick of telling this asshole to go fuck himself .
    15. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:45 PM
      @john No worries John. It is shameful every time this punk knocks your disability with English skills. He is the type that would laugh at a handicapped person probably. I have called and left a message with the web admin on this punk. If no call back tomorrow, than my next of many many calls will be put forth. Cheers mate.
  4. 123123123 posted on 07/23/2014 09:26 AM
    Polls are for dogs. Especially when its 3 months away from voting day.
    1. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 09:38 AM
      @123123123 That is true. It used to be a litmus test that demonstrated the direction people might lean towards.
      Now I think the sole purpose of it is to get people talking.
    2. Peter posted on 07/23/2014 09:58 AM
      @123123123 .
      Good point 123123123

      The polls do get people talking, and leads to awareness and education.

      That sounds like an excellent ingredient for Mayor Fords campaign.
      "Rob Ford has gained 7 points" is a positive news line from the article:

      - good to get people on the Ford bandwagon, and reassures his supporters that they are on the right track.

      Thank you NewsTalk 1010

    3. tanjo posted on 07/23/2014 01:06 PM
      @Peter It could also influence voter turnout.

      For example, with a clear and Rob Ford lagging behind, people might assume the election is pretty much determined and may not show up to vote.

      Whereas a pole showing Ford neck-and-neck with the other candidates could further motivate people to show up and make their vote count.

      I suspect this part of the reason why the Liberals won a majorty government. People were so afraid of a PC majority that we collectively overcompensated.
    4. tanjo posted on 07/23/2014 01:07 PM
      @tanjo ... and for the record, I do know how to spell "poll" properly. I just didn't.
    5. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:21 PM
      @tanjo don't worry...i'm sure the grammar nazis are taking the day off.
      As for the polls having us talking about it, its mission accomplished. Just look at the amount of comments that's here because of it ;p
      ...and I do agree that it is somewhat of a subliminal influence
    6. john posted on 07/23/2014 02:10 PM
      @123123123 what u have agents dogs ? oh right thay are smarter then u . and u are mad about it .
  5. arthur posted on 07/23/2014 10:32 AM
    so according to a poll about recent polls and the reliance of polls.
    It sounds about accurate :)
    if the poll above gives these numbers the final numbers
    will be Chow in the high 30's (she wins hands down) Tory low 30's and Ford if lucky will wind up about 15-18 %. goodbye RoFo!
    1. Angry Bill posted on 07/23/2014 10:34 AM
      @arthur Sure, Toronto, vote for Chow. You already shot yourself in the foot by voting the liberals back in. You have one foot left. What the hell, might as well go all the way and shoot that, too.
    2. arthur posted on 07/23/2014 10:37 AM
      @Angry Bill Harper will be next on the chopping block. Along with do nothings like Baird, McKay and the rest of the federal conservative monkeys
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:23 PM
      @Angry Bill Its ok bill.
      That's where our healthcare kicks in.... ;p

      Oh crap, i forgot. The Liberals boggled that too (*cough*ORNGE*cough*)
    4. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:26 PM
      @arthur You're a funny monkey....flippin' hilarious.
      Seems you're mad at Baird and McKay for finally jumping off the fence, and taking a stand.
      Its about time- and I applaud them.
  6. ToddK_2 posted on 07/23/2014 11:48 AM
    If Rob Ford had any honor left he would step aside for John Tory or else Olivia Chow will be Miller Part 2 for 4 years and reverse all the progress Ford made. Olivia Chow will put Toronto finances over a cliff in 2 years especially with all the Labor contracts coming up for renewal.
    1. Mike posted on 07/23/2014 11:57 AM
      @ToddK_2 Ford made zero progress! you're crazier than he is.
      the city is in the crapper as far as divisive politics. he's an addict a drunk driver and a divider not a uniter. 3 more months and he will be no more.
      Ford and the rest of the cakes on council should thank Miller for land transfer funds to work with over 300 mil or else we would be up the creek without a paddle even more
    2. dama posted on 07/23/2014 12:38 PM
      @ToddK_2 JT is leading in the poll, so why should Rob Ford resign? to make it easer for JT?

      If JT is so confident, he wouldn' even ask Rob Ford to resign..fight it head on till Oct 27 and may the best candidate win..
    3. Karl Burgin posted on 07/23/2014 01:23 PM
      @dama Agreed....and well said
    4. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 02:05 PM
      @dama So correct. Those with a brain will never vote for John now after that huge mistake. Why would anyone want John voted in anyway? He caves in to pressure by the corrupt lefties every time.
    5. Angry Bill posted on 07/23/2014 02:43 PM
      @Mark7 I'm going to call bullshit, Mark7. I'll also wait for your list of "every time" John caves in to pressure by the corrupt lefties.
    6. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 02:53 PM
      @Angry Bill Not a problem at all Bill. If you do not know where he has done this, than you are not following closely enough. I did embellish the facts with the "every time". Yet he has caved in, in the past. Shalom
    7. john posted on 07/23/2014 02:57 PM
      @Angry Bill i bow down to no one .
    8. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 11:07 PM
      @ToddK_2 Most of city council would quit if they had any honour. They do nothing but squander our hard earned money and are proud of it. Rob Ford is the exception to this arrogance.
  7. gayforFord posted on 07/23/2014 12:09 PM
    I am highly educated and gay and will vote for Ford because he is so raw and real and has kept all his promises.
    1. Moses posted on 07/23/2014 02:25 PM
      @gayforFord you know that Rob doesn't like your kind of people right?
      thinks your kind are sinners and creeps
    2. ark7 posted on 07/23/2014 02:35 PM
      @Moses They are sinners, so what was the point you were trying to make? Forcing the institution of marriage to marry them and not accepting the proper term union was the biggest insult YET inflicted on heteros, makes them creeps. So again I enquire, what point are you trying to make?
    3. sammy posted on 07/23/2014 04:07 PM
      @gayforFord gay people stroking themselves saying they're highly intelligent creatures. then further saying Ford has kept all his promises. Lord Jesus the merciful one my head is spinning round and round. let me sit a bit and take an aspirin
    4. tanjo posted on 07/23/2014 04:57 PM
      @gayforFord Sounds like a straight-to-video release, 6 months from now.


      Done in the format of a wrestling video, hosted by Mean Gene Okerlund ... or porn.
    5. Ron posted on 07/23/2014 05:01 PM
      @gayforFord No. The reason you'll vote for Ford is because apparently you're not in touch with reality.
  8. justsaying posted on 07/23/2014 02:07 PM
    There is a very dedicated segment of our city who believe in Mayor Ford.

    There are also as many people in our city who believe in the Rapture and other such fantasies.

    No doubt Ford Nation will affect John Tory's voters, and do nothing but propel Olivia Chow to victory.

    If Rob withdrew, Ford Nation, 15% of our city (by some estimations.....all on crack) would probably just not vote, rather than vote for Tory.

    Yet, the Fords trample on, because their ego will not let it go. So when O gets in, please thank Ford Nation. It will be all their doing!
    1. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 02:40 PM
      @justsaying Others on city council use illegal drugs as well, so get off your high horse. (pun not intended) Otherwise councillors would have taken the pee test when Rob put forward the motion. It is obvious to those with intelligence that some of them are guilty or why not prove beyond a doubt one is clean?

      So just give these crack comments a rest. They hold little weight since the day the hypocrites (city councillors) said no.
    2. justsaying posted on 07/23/2014 03:06 PM
      @Mark7 Mark 7: Please don't compare somebody admitting to smoking joints, to ramped up crack usage! There has never been a politician like him ....ever... He's the most famous crack mayor ever!

      And because context is everything:

      In the last election, Smitherman admitted to using party drugs in the '80 (over 20 years in the past) and in response Ford Nation showed up at his campaign stops to shout him down saying = "We Don't Want a Mayor who is a Drug User."

      Bunch of hypocrites. Must suck to have your own words derail your own argument. Must suck to be you.
    3. john posted on 07/23/2014 03:10 PM
      @Mark7 that was the thing i was thinking about when that happened with the drug test .
    4. Art posted on 07/23/2014 04:01 PM
      @justsaying a lot of folks want Ford to resign. Not me! No way! i mean he should, if he wasn't such a coward and if he had any ethics and less ego that would be the mature responsible thing to do. But mature and responsible is lacking in that whole family of turnips. It's all ego ego ego, not what's good for the city
      Stay in the race and get the sht kicked out of you on the 27th so there isn't further doubt. i myself do not want to be cheated from seeing that.
      Then his downward spiral will commence! We should move on forget him forget the family and just put the last 4 years behind us
    5. dama posted on 07/23/2014 04:04 PM
      @justsaying again why should Ford withdraw? for the sake of argument,if Rob Ford withdrew and Ford Nation sits at home and O wins..

      it is because JT has not worked hard enough to sway the Ford Nation to vote for him or just maybe.. Ford Nation does not like the 1% elite?

      so it would be better that Rob Ford stays in and try to win it before O Chow..

      Like I said.. best candidates win .. every candidate have their campaign platform and past good and bad political histories..

      so cast your vote.. Oct 27
    6. Suz58 posted on 07/23/2014 05:27 PM
      @Mark7 Not positive how the drug testing works but I am thinking they would have to use separate tests for different, one for crack and one for weed. That being said, Ford figured that they would be testing for weed and he would test negative for it since he was smoking crack. I have said it is what the Fords don't say that you have to watch and decipher more than what they say.
    7. Suz58 posted on 07/23/2014 05:31 PM
      @Art I agree! Although it does frighten me that he could get in again.
      I could pretty much guarantee that if by chance he does get in again, the second ride will be much worse than the first.
    8. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:51 PM
      @justsaying Highly irrelevant and conjecture to say none of the councillors partake in hard drugs. Again I say they already proved themselves as guilty as Rob, by hiding and not taking the test.

      Apart from his personal problems, Rob has been the best mayor I have experienced in my 51 years on earth. The media attacks are more shameful than anything Rob has done. Peace
    9. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:53 PM
      @Suz58 Have you not heard that Ford admitted to smoking weed? He did admit to it. He would have tested positive as well. But the hypocrites and cowards at city hall can dish it out, but not take it.
    10. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:59 PM
      @justsaying I have never voted leftie in my life nor ever will. It must suck to to be one those with a small mind to ever commit such an atrocity. That is if you have ever voted for the left. :)

      We were dug into a hole by Trudeau that we have never recouped from. The pinheads who voted the criminal Fiberals back in utterly shock me. The message the pinhead voters sent to the criminal Fiberals is this. You can do anything you want to no matter how illegal, we do not mind. That is stupidity in the extreme.
    11. Mark7 posted on 07/23/2014 11:04 PM
      @john Unlike you and I John, most cannot see past their own noses.
    12. Suz58 posted on 07/24/2014 07:23 AM
      @Mark7 So in other words, he was willing to admit to it with the drug testing and then everyone else would have been busted too.

      I do still think Mark7, there is a big difference between pot and crack. The affects, length of high, type of high, and worse yet, the dependency.

      Personally, I have never liked even weed and a crack high must be worse since it only lasts for a very short time. You can expect at least four hours with weed. Many people do weed, people you would least expect.

      So in other words, he just wanted to prove and let the public know he was not the only one doing weed, how many councillors do you think do crack? I think Ford crossed a line there.
    13. Mark7 posted on 07/24/2014 01:19 PM
      @Suz58 The point I was trying to make is this. If people are so concerned with what drugs Rob did on his personal time, then they should be equally concerned when the councillors said no to the testing. This is the hypocrisy that Rob has suffered. It is all because of one thing alone that he has been the most attacked politician in Canada in my lifetime. He is a constant reminder to the majority of council that they do not do their jobs properly. It is easier to just suck more money out of us than work!

      The voters seen content with having their pocketbooks raped without just cause. A perfect example of this is the criminal Fiberals getting back into power. They should haver never received a single vote and have been whipped out of existance. We had the chance to do it federally, but noooo, we propped them back up when they were almost eradicated. Stupid is what stupid does... SIGH
    14. Mark7 posted on 07/24/2014 01:33 PM
      @justsaying People like you infuriate me. Yes, he admitted to smoking crack. He is not a "ramped up crack addict". NO ONE addicted to crack is overweight, especially at Rob's size. So you know in your heart that you are lying and slandering him just like the DISGRACEFUL Tabloid Star.

      First be ashamed with yourself for bearing false witness and shut up! Or you shall answer dearly for it in front of Yahweh. Good luck with that. You will deserve it.

      ps...Lefties cling to this perpetuated lie because they cannot touch Rob's work ethic, nor his passion to save us money. You probably thought Lastman and Miller were good politicians. ROFL
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