JOHN MOORE

Guns don't kill people, people with guns do

Posted By: John Moore · 1/31/2013 10:56:00 AM

On a day like today it's easy to run out of racetrack while covering something as basic as traffic. But a flash freeze and an absence of salt trucks sent a lot of people slip sliding away. I mentioned I had a story about guns and you would find it here so ....

This story comes from a column written by David Frum which you can find here. He tells of a group of friends in a car in Georgia who pulled into the wrong driveway. Rodrigo Diaz, aged 22 was at the wheel. The owner of the house, a 69 year old Viet Nam vet came out armed with a rifle which he fired into the air. Rodrigo threw the car in reverse and rolled down the window to apologize for having the wrong house. The man shot him in the head. Police say the old man thought the people in the car were going to rob his house. When asked how he could draw that impression when the car was backing out of the drive an officer said "He's old. He may have been confused".

As Frum offers; perhaps too old to own a gun. Now of course the law and order and pro-gun crowd will make all kinds of arguments about there being a real possibility that Rodrigo isn't a saint and maybe he WAS there to rob the house but in what world do you shoot people in the street who you think MIGHT be on their way to rob your house?

I'm not a hard core gun control guy because I believe in responsible gun ownership but as long as people keep shooting each other for no reason it's pretty clear we need to have a franker discussion of what constitutes responsible gun ownership. With this old guy shooting a young man dead, Gabby Giffords speaking on the Hill and a little girl who played drum corps at Obama's inauguration being gunned down in a Chicago park, the NRA had better start refining its talking points. 

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  1. SteveB_10 posted on 01/31/2013 01:05 PM
    The right wing is fact proof. However for those who want proof click on the link,
    http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-gun-problem-one-chart-2013-1
  2. Angry Bill posted on 02/01/2013 04:14 PM
    Responsible gun ownership will never happen in the States, John. You'll recall Alex Jones' rant here: http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/01/08/piers-morgan-warned-1776-will-be-here-again-if-you-try-take-away-us-guns

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who feel the way he does. No law that the States passes will impact school or theatre shootings. There are just too many guns out there, and too many wahoos who think they need semi automatic assault rifles. Heck, they think they need FULLY automatic assault rifles.

    Therefore, and I can see no other way around this, but in a perverse sense the NRA is right. Give everyone guns. I mean everyone. That way, if some whack job decides to open fire in a crowded public place, only 1 or 2 people will die before everyone else turns him into swiss cheese.

    Crazy, eh? What else can be done, though, if you're unable to remove the guns? The only option left is to level the playing field. And cancel my trip to the States.
  3. N N S Chand posted on 02/03/2013 08:02 AM
    Hi John,
    I am from another part of the world and have never used or even touched a gun. Being in America and Canada for last two decades, having gone for hunting with American friends, I have come to admire Americans relationship with guns. Like 'kripan' for Sikhs in India.
    Guns might be dangerous. The pure libertarian guidelines and the theories of "you are on your own" is very much engraved in American psyche, as far as I could see. So are the guns! It is a symbol of that independence. I never felt that way because I felt always part of some bigger thing.
    I think Americans must be left alone with their guns.
    NSC
    1. CoffeeCon posted on 02/04/2013 09:15 AM
      @N N S Chand You are correct; they really should be left alone (and far away) with their guns- it is truly their secret psychosis, their One Ring.
  4. proton posted on 02/05/2013 04:38 PM
    Let's try to be a little more accurate. Generally, people with mental issues and guns kill people.
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